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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:17 pm 
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In case you missed the "edited" posting above...

Halloo-o-o-o Suisse !!!
The following comments were intended to garner your attention...
Hopefully, you've gotten a chance to look at the "Karen Anne RN" commentary and question (directly, above), I thought you might be ready-able-willing to provide a "blow-by-blow" description of just how close the referenced commentary matches the actual plans of the French and Swiss governments (mandatory-vaccinations-military-enforced a'la "temporary" martial law)? Also, do you have any info regarding the intentions of specific European nations to incorporate the "verichip-type" RFID with or without bracelets?

http://tiny.cc/NfXg3
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=15272

Citoyen Suisse...
How goes it in France und in die Schweiz?
Wie hoch liegt der Schnee in Garmisch ??? :mod:


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:21 pm 
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Gupta:
Yet ANOTHER "everything is fine nothing to see here, no big deal"
commentary?
http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2009 ... -was-h1n1/

Isnt this the SAME guy that went to Mexico this spring and said nothing was going on, hospitals were empty?
Then we all saw those reports and pictures of everyone in Mexico City in masks and hospitals being guarded by armed men?

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:26 pm 
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@ Mtn:
Did I forget to publish the following ?

Betreffend Schnee in Garmish: Keine Ahnung.
Im Moment gibt eines wunderschönes sonniges "Indian Summer" in der Romandie, mit ungefähr 25 Grad im Rhonetal.

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:43 pm 
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Karen Anne RN wrote:
WHO launches global vaccination program
The World Health Organization has issued a binding ‘recommendation’ to all member countries requiring them to institute mandatory vaccination programs. Under an existing multilateral agreement this formally invokes each state’s pandemic plan and puts coordination under control of WHO. For some European states the pandemic plan includes setting aside government as normal and ruling the country by a special council under control of the EU and WHO. France has already announced that it will effect a move to military rule beginning in September.
The global pandemic vaccination program will begin somewhere around the end of September and last about two months. Many countries are in the process of acquiring from Baxter, Novartis, GlaxoSmithKline and other pharmaceutical companies enough doses of vaccine to vaccinate their entire population twice. They remain quiet about mandatory vaccination, simply saying they will make vaccination ‘available’ to all on a priority basis. But Greece and Switzerland have already announced that their programs will be mandatory and enforced by the military. There are unconfirmed reports that Norway and Israel have done the same. The United States is preparing for military ‘assisted’ mandatory vaccination but has not explicitly declared its intentions to the public.
http://shuswapnews.com/news/2009/08/14/ ... -prepares/
http://tiny.cc/NfXg3
I don't know what to think anymore.
How to verify this see-are-a-pee ?

Did she dream all that ?

1.- No recommendation of OMS is binding - NONE. OMS is only consultative.
The responsable of health of each countrie (If his domestic agenda is not too full) can meet to communicate to each other what happens in his own country, sometimes, the meeting gives it's opinion, sometimes not.
Once the situation in other countries is known, each country takes it's own decisions. For instance, France (and many others) did never go to "Phase 6", because there was no reason to.
"Phase", is a statement about what the actual situation of each country. You should read the document issued by any country cooperating together with the infrastructure of OMS.

2.- OMS controls nothing: It collects informations and helps the countries which desire it, to use a common infrastructure.

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"For some European states the pandemic plan includes setting aside government as normal and ruling the country by a special council under control of the EU..."

Fast all European States, ARE the European Union. The Union is "ruled" by a Council called "European Commission" and, to some extend, by the European Parliament.
(Not to mix up with the "Council of Europe": There are plenty of various european organisations, each one with it's own consultative power).

4.- In fast all countries, the army puts it's infrastructure at disposition of the governments.
For instance, the means of the army (satellites, communications, lorries, rescue food, water etc) are prepositioned to evacuate populations in case of hurricane, avalanche etc.
Some infrastructure is also prepositioned (pumps to evacuate the water of floodings, water pipes, emergency communications, tents, beds, hospitals etc) by the army. In all those cases, the army obeys to the elected (or unelected) government of a Country or of a State.
(Just compare this level of preparedness of the european countries with the incredible impreparedness before, during and after Kathrina :shock: :shock: .)

5.- Fast all European Countries have enough vaccine for all population. None plans to vaccinate all the population: Each one CAN profit of a vaccine, but must not.

What concerns Switzerland is in the next message

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:47 pm 
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6.- I am Swiss citizen and I live in Switzerland. About Greece, I don't know (but you can be absolutly sure that the greeks will not let any military thing take any power, because they lived the long Dictature of the Colonels).
In Switzerland, virtually EVERY male adult citizen is or was military. It is called citizen-soldier.
You can be sure of one thing: No citizen-soldier will allow any action against Democracy. In addition, each citizen-soldier has his own military equipment AT HOME (gun, cartouches, gas mask, knife, uniforms, military shoes etc), in order to be able to resist very quickly to any military invasion. ( It is presently not very useful, but the preparedness is so).

In time of peace, the army has NO military head. The head of the army is the elected government.
After the active millitary period (around 10 years), each ex-soldier, together with ex-non-soldier and several resident foreigners, participates to the civilian protection corp. This corp is organised to act in case of catastrophy (atomic attack, chemical attack, fire, take care of the wounded etc).
For practical reasons, it is often easier and less expensive to ask to the the soldiers to help during their 3 weeks yearly military period.
>>> You can just not compare with any other country (?): Each soldier, captain, major, coronel etc is a regular citizen. He is civilian citizen "before", military citizen "during 3 weeks' military training" and civilian citizen "after".<<<

However, as I wrote here above, nothing is mandatory, except for employees in contact with the public. And, of course, no army will oblige anybody to vaccinate. "Martial Law" -> It can only be a joke
As far as I can hear around me, fast all the population whishes to take advantage of the free vaccination. (Well, it costs around 15$, but it is paid by the universal medical insurance & the States.)

In resumé, what Karen writes is a pure phantasm: She mixes up everything, probably because she does not know many European languages nor many European Countries.

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:51 pm 
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Also, do you have any info regarding the intentions of specific European nations to incorporate the "verichip-type" RFID with or without bracelets?

UK is the country which has a problem, beacuse there is no ID-card in that country.

In any case, due to the high ethical spirit of the european citizen, this kind of plans is probably more difficult to implement in Europe than in USA.
I ignore what happens in USA about those matters.

Another thing: In Switzerland, the Press is totally free.

For international informations, you can read:
http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=100000
http://www.sf.tv/index.php

For national news:
http://www.swissinfo.ch/fre/index.html
The best TV Channel, you can catch anywhere by satelite and cable, is TV5 Monde
http://www.tv5.org/

For Africa, you have the "Portail Afrique" of TV5 Monde:
http://www.tv5.org/TV5Site/afrique/index.php

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:15 am 
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News from Iran:
Launched 2 short range missiles.
Will launch middle-range missiles today. Sunday.
Will launch long-range missiles tomorow, Monday.

About the Mad dictator Gaddafi:
There is a Summit of the ASA (Africa-SouthAmerica). He declared he wants to create a "Southern NATO".
He whishes the new organisation to be ready in 2011, when the 3rd Summit of this organisation will take place in Tripoli, Libya (The country of the mad dictator).

Let me give you some keys, to understand what is going on, behind the scene.
I don't know if you already know the way the Mahomedan countries and Islamists consider the other people ...

For them, we are future slaves (called DHIMMI) or dead.
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REMEMBER WELL THIS WORD: D-H-I-M-M-I
And search a little, using this key-word: DHIMMI

The statute of Dhimmi is called DHIMMITUDE. DHIMMITUDE is another keyword.

Just put it together and shake a little, add the declaration of Gaddafi who said "in 50 years, Europe will be ruled by islamics", and you can have a first overview of what those people have in mind.

Add that those dictators give no value to human life, and you start to see that the biological weapons of Gaddafi (the black plague), will be followed by other biological weapons and nukes.

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:39 am 
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:shock: je vois ici des propos incitant a la haine contre une religion par le biais d'affirmation ne faisant aucune distinctions entre intégrisme et islamisme on est bien loin de la science et de lutte contre une maladie :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:32 am 
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This is an answer to the french text, which accuses me to propagate hate etc.

I leave others to judge whether explanations of what happens "behind the scenes" is irrelevant.
The peculiarity of the conspiracy is to be hidden behind the scene.
The own of the mad dictator is to retain his arsenal of biological weapons.

For me, it means: Conspiracy + epidemic = 100% in this threat.

If the reader is shocked: Let him skip my previous text and research, by himself, using the keyword DHIMMI
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Je laisse aux autres le soin de juger si, donner des explications de ce qui se passe "derrière la scène", est hors-sujet.
Le propre de la conspiration est d'être cachée derrière la scène.
Le propre du dictateur fou est de conserver, dans son arsenal, des armes biologiques.

Pour moi, ça signifie: Conspiration + épidémie = 100% dans ce ce fil.

Si le lecteur est choqué: Qu'il s'abstienne de lire le texte, et qu'il recherche, par lui-même, en utilisant le mot-clé DHIMMI

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:41 am 
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Suisse wrote:
News from Iran:
Launched 2 short range missiles.
Will launch middle-range missiles today. Sunday.
Will launch long-range missiles tomorow, Monday.

...

I don't know if you already know the way the Mahomedan countries and Islamists consider the other people ...

Is Iran planning to nuke Switzerland before or after selling you natural gas?

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIndu ... 8820080316

" GENEVA, March 16 (Reuters) - Switzerland's foreign minister was travelling to Tehran on Sunday to sign a natural gas purchase contract between Iran and a Swiss utility, a deal she said could help ease Europe's dependence on Russian gas.

Micheline Calmy-Rey would also meet Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki and other officials to discuss Iran's human rights record and ongoing international concerns about the country's nuclear programme.

The gas deal between Elektrizitaetsgesellschaft Laufenburg (EGL) (EGL.S) and the National Iranian Gas Export Company (NIGEC) does not violate United Nations or U.S. sanctions imposed on Iran, Calmy-Rey said.

"This contract does not violate any of the sanctions," she told journalists before her departure at Geneva airport."
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And as for the sweeping Islamic comment, these views would not represent the views of any Muslims I know now or have personally known in the past. I think it's just as offensive and incorrect a sweeping generalisation as the statement that you can also find on the web about the meaning of the word "Goy" to a supposed Jewish elite. However I am aware of a minority of supposed Muslims, Jews and Christians for that matter who do hold such extreme views. And to be perfectly honest some of the end of the world fantasies of fundamentalist "Christians" absolutely terrify me.


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