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WHO meeting on H5N1 studies to have narrow focus
A meeting planned by the World Health Organization (WHO) next week to discuss two controversial studies on transmissible H5N1 avian influenza viruses will focus narrowly on whether the studies should be published at all and, if so, in full or abridged form, the Canadian Press (CP) reported yesterday. In the studies, Dutch and American teams generated a mutant H5N1 virus and an H5N1-H1N1 reassortant that spread as easily as seasonal flu in ferrets. The US National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity has recommended that the two journals involved, Science and Nature, withhold the details of the studies out of concern that the data could be exploited by hostile parties. The WHO meeting is unlikely to address the broad question of how to regulate potentially dangerous biological research in the future or—assuming the two studies are not published in full—even how to share the details with those who need to know, WHO officials told the CP. They said they have invited only 22 outside participants to the meeting, scheduled for Feb 16 and 17 in Geneva. The invitees include representatives of the Vietnamese and Indonesian labs that provided the viruses used in the research. The WHO has said it intends to organize a second meeting later with more participants and broader goals.
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Meanwhile, the editors of The Lancet Infectious Diseases called for publishing the full details of the two studies and devising a system to screen future "dual-use" studies before they are carried out. "Now so much is already known by so many, surely the best way to limit the potential harm is to make the full details and the full risks known to as many as possible so that work to address threats can begin," the editorial said. "Moving forward, the international research community and funding organisations must consider how to regulate research with potential for dual use so that the ramifications are considered and addressed long before it is begun; and certainly well before, so to speak, the ferret is out of the bag."
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Avian influenza and the dual-use research debate
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Since the first human cases of infection with avian influenza H5N1 were reported 15 years ago, the disease has caused 344 deaths among 583 known cases—a case fatality of nearly 60%. Despite the highly lethal nature of this virus, it is very rarely transmitted from birds to people, and even less frequently, if ever, transmitted from person to person. Nonetheless, the possibility of the virus mutating or recombining with another to develop pandemic potential is a bleak prospect for public health. So it is not surprising that the news that two groups of researchers have purposefully generated H5N1 strains that are transmitted easily in aerosols among ferrets, a widely used model of human influenza transmission, has generated a fierce debate about the conduct and dissemination of dual-use research, as reported in this month's Newsdesk.
Dual-use research is defined as biological research with a legitimate scientific goal that could be misused by rogue states, terrorist organisations, or individuals to pose a biological threat to public health or national security. In the USA, the National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity (NSABB), a government body, advises on dual-use research and how it should be handled. Following a presentation of one of the studies at an influenza conference in Malta in September, 2011, two research papers were submitted to two leading academic journals and brought to the attention of the NSABB. After much discussion, the board recommended that key information be redacted from the published reports.
The journals agreed to the recommendation, although under the condition that the redacted information is made available to researchers and organisations with a legitimate reason to have access to it—which might include governments of countries with endemic H5N1, influenza research institutions around the globe, and pharmaceutical companies. The researchers have also agreed. Although for some involved and others in the wider scientific community, the recommendation has been viewed as unnecessary censorship.
Attempting to generate strains of H5N1 that can easily transmit among human beings clearly poses enormous risks, not only because of the potential for the information to be used by terrorist organisations to replicate the experiments and develop and release a pandemic virus, but also the simple risk of virus escape. So why would researchers do such experiments in the first place? The researchers have cited the potential public health benefits. First, the research shows that the virus can be transmitted in aerosols among animals other than their usual avian hosts, proving that there is an H5N1 pandemic threat. Second, once we understand the mutations needed to develop this ability, H5N1 surveillance teams can look for these in isolates from outbreaks among birds and from people with the disease. Third, the effectiveness of our health measures against these viruses can be tested: do the vaccines and antivirals we already have protect against these potentially pandemic H5N1 strains?
Some argue that such studies should not be done at all, not only because of the potential risks, but also because of the questionable applicability of the findings to a real-world situation of any H5N1 pandemic. Given the millions of potential recombination and mutation events happening in nature, there are probably many ways of H5N1 achieving human pandemic potential and the characteristics of a naturally occurring virus may well differ from laboratory-generated strains. Furthermore, there is no evidence that the strains that pass among ferrets would pass easily among human beings or have the same pathogenicity.
At a WHO meeting starting on February 16, influenza experts will meet to discuss the present controversy, dissemination of these data, and other ongoing H5N1 research. The risks and benefits of the studies not yet completed and the degree of biosafety must be carefully considered—the escape or deliberate release of a highly pathogenic H5N1 virus with pandemic potential could be devastating. Nonetheless, halting dissemination after the research has been completed, especially after partial details have been announced at meetings, is not only too late, but it goes against the principles of transparency and collaboration. Now so much is already known by so many, surely the best way to limit the potential harm is to make the full details and the full risks known to as many as possible so that work to address threats can begin. Moving forward, the international research community and funding organisations must consider how to regulate research with potential for dual use so that the ramifications are considered and addressed long before it is begun; and certainly well before, so to speak, the ferret is out of the bag.

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The NSABB have set the stage. Even if the virus evolves naturally, and transmits person to person, every citizen in this country will believe it was a deliberate act of terror, and not an act of Nature. By saying things like "the information will come out eventually..." it's almost like they're forshadowing some terroristic event. I believe that's the main agenda. The fear will be overwhelming and everybody will be demanding censorship of Scientific data... they might even demand retaliation on some poor country we haven't declared war on yet.
I can't think of any logical reason for their sudden interest in "information". They didn't censor the Scientists in Athens GA who resurrected the deadliest plague known to mankind, the 1918 virus, and published it to Genbank. Why the sudden concern? Why right now?

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The NSABB have set the stage. Even if the virus evolves naturally, and transmits person to person, every citizen in this country will believe it was a deliberate act of terror, and not an act of Nature. By saying things like "the information will come out eventually..." it's almost like they're forshadowing some terroristic event. I believe that's the main agenda. The fear will be overwhelming and everybody will be demanding censorship of Scientific data... they might even demand retaliation on some poor country we haven't declared war on yet.
I can't think of any logical reason for their sudden interest in "information". They didn't censor the Scientists in Athens GA who resurrected the deadliest plague known to mankind, the 1918 virus, and published it to Genbank. Why the sudden concern? Why right now?

The info in the papers leaves little doubt that H5N1 can easily transmit (and can easily be generated), in contrast to consultants / "experts" who claimed H5N1 would never transmit (and have a PRIMITIVE understanding of infleunza eveolution).

The new info really is a game changer.

Unfortuately, NASBB has BAD info, and is rather clueless regarding the natural threat of H5N1. The meeting this week in Geneva may show how out of touch NSABB really is.

H5N1 has always been about POLITICS and the latest episode is more of the same (but at a higher and more public level).

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Last month, scientists around the world agreed to temporarily halt certain genetic experiments with bird flu viruses. More than three weeks of that 60-day moratorium have already passed. And the scientific community is in the midst of a fierce debate about what needs to happen next.

We don't know yet how infectious this particular virus is to humans, what it would do once it were in humans from a clinical disease standpoint, but we have no margin for error here.

- Michael Osterholm, University of Minnesota
The suspension of the research came in response to fears that researchers had created dangerous new germs that could cause a devastating pandemic in people if they ever escaped the lab or fell into the wrong hands.

The World Health Organization has invited a small group of experts to Geneva to grapple with the most urgent questions posed by these lab-altered viruses in a closed-door meeting that will start Feb. 16 and last two days.

"The WHO was actually asked by a number of different parties, you know, will you become involved in the process and help try to facilitate a more global approach to the discussions," says Keiji Fukuda, a WHO official and an expert on pandemic flu.

The controversy centers on experiments to understand the nature of an influenza virus known as H5N1. Out in nature, this virus circulates among wild birds. The bird flu rarely makes people sick, but when it does it can be deadly. More than 500 people are known to have fallen ill, and over half of them died.

The virus doesn't easily spread between people. Still, public health experts wondered: could this bird flu ever evolve in a way that would make it contagious in humans?

To try to answer that question, scientists in the Netherlands recently did a lab experiment that modified genes in the virus. The result was a new germ that could pass through the air between ferrets and kill them — and ferrets are the laboratory stand-in for people.

Those findings alarmed experts who reviewed the studies. They worry this virus could potentially cause a catastrophic pandemic if it got out.

"We don't know yet how infectious this particular virus is to humans, what it would do once it were in humans from a clinical disease standpoint, but we have no margin for error here," says Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, who notes that flu viruses can swiftly travel around the globe.

He says until scientists understand the true risks posed by these viral agents, "it would be foolish to not take this very seriously."

Osterholm serves on the National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity, a committee that advises the government on biological research that could be misused. Late last year, it reviewed this flu study, and another similar study led by a researcher at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. The committee took the unprecedented step of recommending that some details of these biological studies kept from the public, so that no one could use them as recipes for new bioweapons.

That recommendation was the start of what's turning into a massive fight in the science community. Because some virologists say the potential risks have been vastly overstated. They bristle at the idea of putting restrictions on basic research aimed at improving public health.

"On a scientific basis, these experiments are worth doing and they're not dangerous," says Vincent Racaniello, a virologist at Columbia University in New York. "If you balance the danger versus the amount of information you get, I think my view is you go forward."

He thinks other labs should repeat the studies and build on the results, which should be published for all to see. And he disagrees with those who want to these viruses moved to super-secure labs—the kind of places that store smallpox and Ebola.

For now, scientists have stopped all experiments using these viruses, plus any genetic work that could create more like them. Publication is also on hold.

"We have viruses which exist, we have manuscripts which have been written, we have a moratorium which was declared voluntarily by the researchers, and so given all of that, you know, what are some of the practical steps that we can take," says Fukuda.

He says the WHO invited 22 people to this week's meeting. Participants will include researchers directly involved in conducting the studies, experts who have reviewed the findings, and editors who may publish papers describing the experiments.

The National Institutes of Health, which funded the flu work, is sending Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Paul Keim of Northern Arizona University, acting chair of the NSABB, will attend to represent that committee.

Bruce Alberts, editor-in-chief of the journal Science, says he is unable to attend and will send a deputy editor. His journal wants to publish, in some form, a manuscript that describes the work done in the Netherlands. The meeting's organizers want to let everyone there see the full, un-redacted version of that report, says Alberts, but they are planning to only give out paper copies that have to be returned at the end of the session.

"On the one hand, obviously, the international community has to know exactly what's involved," says Alberts. "But on the other hand, we have to be careful about not jeopardizing the possibility to restrict the information."

One way of restricting the information would be to publish the research without key details. And devise a system to give the sensitive information only to legitimate researchers who need it. Top science officials in the U. S. government are now trying to create such a system. Alberts says he hopes they'll come up with something that works, and this is going to have to be an international effort.

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Last month, scientists around the world agreed to temporarily halt certain genetic experiments with bird flu viruses. More than three weeks of that 60-day moratorium have already passed. And the scientific community is in the midst of a fierce debate about what needs to happen next.

We don't know yet how infectious this particular virus is to humans, what it would do once it were in humans from a clinical disease standpoint, but we have no margin for error here.

- Michael Osterholm, University of Minnesota
The suspension of the research came in response to fears that researchers had created dangerous new germs that could cause a devastating pandemic in people if they ever escaped the lab or fell into the wrong hands.

The World Health Organization has invited a small group of experts to Geneva to grapple with the most urgent questions posed by these lab-altered viruses in a closed-door meeting that will start Feb. 16 and last two days.

"The WHO was actually asked by a number of different parties, you know, will you become involved in the process and help try to facilitate a more global approach to the discussions," says Keiji Fukuda, a WHO official and an expert on pandemic flu.

The controversy centers on experiments to understand the nature of an influenza virus known as H5N1. Out in nature, this virus circulates among wild birds. The bird flu rarely makes people sick, but when it does it can be deadly. More than 500 people are known to have fallen ill, and over half of them died.

The virus doesn't easily spread between people. Still, public health experts wondered: could this bird flu ever evolve in a way that would make it contagious in humans?

To try to answer that question, scientists in the Netherlands recently did a lab experiment that modified genes in the virus. The result was a new germ that could pass through the air between ferrets and kill them — and ferrets are the laboratory stand-in for people.

Those findings alarmed experts who reviewed the studies. They worry this virus could potentially cause a catastrophic pandemic if it got out.

"We don't know yet how infectious this particular virus is to humans, what it would do once it were in humans from a clinical disease standpoint, but we have no margin for error here," says Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, who notes that flu viruses can swiftly travel around the globe.

He says until scientists understand the true risks posed by these viral agents, "it would be foolish to not take this very seriously."

Osterholm serves on the National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity, a committee that advises the government on biological research that could be misused. Late last year, it reviewed this flu study, and another similar study led by a researcher at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. The committee took the unprecedented step of recommending that some details of these biological studies kept from the public, so that no one could use them as recipes for new bioweapons.

That recommendation was the start of what's turning into a massive fight in the science community. Because some virologists say the potential risks have been vastly overstated. They bristle at the idea of putting restrictions on basic research aimed at improving public health.

"On a scientific basis, these experiments are worth doing and they're not dangerous," says Vincent Racaniello, a virologist at Columbia University in New York. "If you balance the danger versus the amount of information you get, I think my view is you go forward."

He thinks other labs should repeat the studies and build on the results, which should be published for all to see. And he disagrees with those who want to these viruses moved to super-secure labs—the kind of places that store smallpox and Ebola.

For now, scientists have stopped all experiments using these viruses, plus any genetic work that could create more like them. Publication is also on hold.

"We have viruses which exist, we have manuscripts which have been written, we have a moratorium which was declared voluntarily by the researchers, and so given all of that, you know, what are some of the practical steps that we can take," says Fukuda.

He says the WHO invited 22 people to this week's meeting. Participants will include researchers directly involved in conducting the studies, experts who have reviewed the findings, and editors who may publish papers describing the experiments.

The National Institutes of Health, which funded the flu work, is sending Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Paul Keim of Northern Arizona University, acting chair of the NSABB, will attend to represent that committee.

Bruce Alberts, editor-in-chief of the journal Science, says he is unable to attend and will send a deputy editor. His journal wants to publish, in some form, a manuscript that describes the work done in the Netherlands. The meeting's organizers want to let everyone there see the full, un-redacted version of that report, says Alberts, but they are planning to only give out paper copies that have to be returned at the end of the session.

"On the one hand, obviously, the international community has to know exactly what's involved," says Alberts. "But on the other hand, we have to be careful about not jeopardizing the possibility to restrict the information."

One way of restricting the information would be to publish the research without key details. And devise a system to give the sensitive information only to legitimate researchers who need it. Top science officials in the U. S. government are now trying to create such a system. Alberts says he hopes they'll come up with something that works, and this is going to have to be an international effort.

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Scientist checks eggs for bird flu at the Zooprophylactic Institute near Padua (Daniele la Monaca Reuters, REUTERS / December 12, 2005)

Decision time for researchers of deadly bird flu

When 22 bird flu experts meet at the World Health Organization (WHO) this week, they will be tasked with deciding just how far scientists should go in creating lethal mutant viruses in the name of research.

The hurriedly-assembled meeting is designed to try and settle an unprecedented row over a call to ban publication of two scientific studies which detail how to mutate H5N1 bird flu viruses into a form that could cause a deadly human pandemic.

But experts say whatever the outcome, no amount of censorship, global regulation or shutting down of research projects could stop rogue scientists getting the tools to create and release a pandemic H5N1 virus if they were intent on evil.

"It doesn't matter how much you restrict scientists from doing good, bad people can still do bad things," said Wendy Barclay, an expert in flu virology at Imperial College London.

The WHO called the meeting, for February 17 and 18 in Geneva, to work out how to break a deadlock between scientists who have studied the mutations needed to make H5N1 transmit between mammals and U.S. biosecurity chiefs who want their work censored or "redacted" before it goes into scientific journals.

Since the two research teams, one in the Netherlands and one in the United States, have found that just a small number of mutations would allow H5N1 to spread like ordinary flu between mammals - and remain just as deadly as it is now - the meeting is likely to be tense and highly secretive. WHO officials repeatedly stress it will be a "closed door" event.

DEEP CONCERN

The United Nations health body has said it is "deeply concerned about the potential negative consequences" of work by the two leading flu research teams who in December said they had found ways to make H5N1 into a easily transmissible form capable of causing lethal human pandemics.

Flu researchers from around the world - more than 30 teams in all - declared a 60-day moratorium starting on January 20 on "any research involving highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 viruses" that produce easily contagious forms of the virus.

The WHO has invited 22 people to this week's meeting, including the researchers who carried out the work, editors of the two journals, Science and Nature, who were asked to hold publication, and representatives from the U.S. National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity (NSABB) which asked for the papers to be censored.

Keiji Fukuda, the WHO's Assistant Director-General for Health Security and Environment, who will chair the meeting, says he would like to secure agreement on whether the studies should be published, in full or part, and who should have access to them.

The scientific know-how is seen as vital for scientists to be able to develop vaccines, diagnostic tests and anti-viral drugs that could be deployed in the event of an H5N1 pandemic.

"It is important that research on these viruses should continue," Fukuda told Reuters. "They do pose a risk. There's a lot of things we don't know about them. The question is not really should we continue to do research ... but under what conditions can we do it so we don't unnecessarily create fears and risks."

The H5N1 virus, first detected in Hong Kong in 1997, remains entrenched among poultry in many countries, mainly in Asia, but so far remains hard for humans to catch. It is known to have infected nearly 700 people worldwide since 2003, killing half of them, a far higher fatality rate than the H1N1 swine flu which caused an influenza pandemic in 2009/2010.

Ron Fouchier, the scientist leading the Dutch team that gave H5N1 various genetic mutations and made it transmissible in mammals, argues the research must be published to help public health officials better prepare for a scenario where the virus could mutate and become more deadly, spreading from person to person via coughs and sneezes.

He has also said other research teams around the world are close to the same findings, some of them inadvertently, and should be warned in advance how the virus could become airborne.

In the short term, most scientists agree the moratorium is "a good gesture," as flu expert and former WHO health security adviser David Heymann describes it, one that offers the research community space to think.

SUPER STRAINS

But can it, or should it, go on forever?

Heymann, Barclay and many other scientists argue that stopping this type of research into flu viruses and other potentially lethal pathogens would set a dangerous precedent.

Although adding and deleting genes can create super-strains that put the entire world at risk, Heymann said, such work is also vital to developing tools such as effective vaccines and diagnostic tests which are needed quickly if a pandemic hits.

Preventing this research would also prevent legitimate and well-intentioned researchers from using all possible scientific options to prepare for naturally occurring, or deliberately caused, outbreaks.

John Edmunds, who heads the department of infectious disease epidemiology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, describes studies on genetic mutations of H5N1 as "very, very important work" that should not be stopped.

"This flu strain has the potential to cause such enormous damage, and it's important to know how far away we are from a horrible event like that," he said. "It appears we're not that far off it. That doesn't mean it's inevitably going to happen, but it makes it more important that we're vigilant."

Heymann, who now leads the Center on Global Health Security at the Chatham House think-tank in London, says the best possible outcome would be a globally-agreed "best practices framework on how you conduct this research and how you provide the information to others."

"It's also crucial to get understanding that even if you don't provide this research information, there are ways that rogue scientists can get it if they want to," he said.

(Writing by Kate Kelland; Editing by Janet Lawrence)

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Dread Reckoning: H5N1 Bird Flu May Be Less Deadly to Humans Than Previously Thought--or Not
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HIGH SECURITY: Microbiologist inoculating 10-day old chicken eggs with H5N1 avian flu virus. Image: Courtesy of CDC/Taronna Maines

Are fears of human-to-human transmitted bird flu overblown or does it make sense, based on current fatality rates, to anticipate a worst-case scenario for a future outbreak of H5N1 flu?

A simple math problem lies at the heart of a heated debate over whether scientists should be allowed to publish provocative research into the transmissibility of H5N1 flu. Assuming the avian virus could spread easily among people, just how deadly would an H5N1 pandemic be for humans?

Flu scientists tend to shy away from that question, suggesting that it is not possible to predict how lethal the virus would still be after undergoing the necessary changes to adapt to human physiology. But inevitably, people look for clues to what appears to be the best predictor of the virus's future path—its current behavior. And that appears downright terrifying: as many as 59 percent of people known to have contracted the virus have died from the infection.

More specifically, of the 584 people who have tested positive with what the World Health Organization (WHO) confirms is H5N1, 345 have died. (These numbers are current as of February 8, 2012.)

But what if H5N1 isn't as deadly as the official numbers suggest?

Indeed, two researchers have charged into the already fraught H5N1 publication controversy insisting the numbers are wrong, that the true mortality rate is likely to be much, much lower and that bad policy is being driven by the inflated figures.

Peter Palese, a noted influenza virologist at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City, and Vincent Racaniello, a professor of microbiology at Columbia University Medical Center, also in New York City, are among a vocal group of scientists who vehemently oppose any decision to suppress the details of research conducted by Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin–Madison and Ron Fouchier of Erasmus Medical Center in the Netherlands.

Fouchier and Kawaoka had—at the request of the National Institutes of Health—figured out whether the H5N1 virus could become more transmissible in non-avian species. Their efforts reportedly revealed that just a few mutations were all that was needed to create a bird flu virus that is easily transmitted between ferrets. In addition, Fouchier said that his strain remained just as deadly to ferrets as it had been to birds, although Kawaoka later declared that his lab strain was not lethal.

Palese suggested in a perspective article co-authored by Taia Wang and published ahead of print on January 25, 2012 in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that the case fatality rate of H5N1 human was almost certainly "orders of magnitude" too high.

Starting with the current 59 percent rate, if you start pushing the decimal point left, 59 becomes 5.9, which becomes 0.56 or even 0.056. Each adjustment of the decimal corresponds to an order of magnitude. (For comparison's sake, the mortality rate of current seasonal flu is less than 0.1 percent whereas researchers estimate that the mortality rate of the killer 1918 flu pandemic was around 2 percent.)

Racaniello, who did his thesis research under Palese, suggested on his popular Virology Blog in early January that the estimates of H5N1's killing potential were vastly overrated. Citing a recently published study that found what might be H5N1 antibodies in the blood of some villagers in Thailand, he mused that if 9 percent of rural Asians had antibodies to the virus, the perception of how dangerous H5N1 is would change dramatically.

In the flu world, few people would argue that Palese and Racaniello are wrong that the case/fatality rate is too high. It might be difficult, though, to find many who agreed with their conclusion on what that means about the virus.

It is widely accepted that the cases that come to light and get tallied by WHO are only an unknown portion of the total human infections that have occurred. Official case counts are certainly missing some infections—but not enough to morph H5N1 into a benign virus, a number of flu scientists agree in interviews for Scientific American.

"I think all these numbers are flexible, and Peter is undoubtedly right it's not 60 percent. But I don't know what it is. And I don't think he does either," says Robert Krug, chairman of Genetics and Microbiology at the University of Texas at Austin, where his work focuses on the molecular mechanisms at play during influenza infection.

"It's dangerous. How dangerous? I have no idea…. I'm sure it's less than 60 percent but it's still too high for the world to tolerate a (human-to-human) transmissible H5N1 virus," says Krug, who believes both papers should be published in full.

The problem with the case/fatality rate, as Palese pointed out in PNAS, is that human infections with what is still a bird virus generally only come to the attention of medical authorities when someone gets really sick. In fact, in order to count as a case by WHO's definition, a person must have a high fever, known exposure to the virus, and needs to test positive for H5N1. A specimen for a test would generally only be taken at a hospital and that facility would have to have access to a laboratory. If H5N1 is causing mild cases, they are unlikely to come to light under that definition. Is a person living in a remote Cambodian village who feels lousy for a couple of days going to seek that kind of medical care? If there are H5N1 cases like that, the fact they are being missed artificially lowers the denominator.

"If the only cases you know about are the ones who are going to die, then you might believe that the case/fatality rate is very high because you lack surveillance of less symptomatic cases," says John J. Treanor, chief of the Infectious Diseases Division at the University of Rochester Medical Center in New York State.

But what of the numerator, or the number of deaths? For the case/fatality rate to plummet, the numerator must be a smaller fraction of the total cases. But it is clear the numerator is off as well, notes Tim Uyeki, an influenza epidemiologist at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control who has spent a lot of time in the field studying human H5N1 cases and outbreaks.

Uyeki points as an example to the first report in the scientific literature of presumed person-to-person spread of H5N1. It was a cluster of three infections that started with an 11-year-old girl who fell ill in September 2004. She lived with an aunt while her mother worked in a distant city. Both the aunt and the mother, who came home to care for the girl, got sick; the mother and daughter died.

All three clearly had H5N1—a throat swab confirmed it in the aunt and virus was found in tissue from the mother. But the hospital had thought the girl had dengue fever. By the time they realized these were H5N1 cases, the girl had died and her body was cremated. Officially that cluster went down on the books as two cases, not three. There are other cases that were designated as probable infections but which never made the official count, Uyeki says.

Given the limitations of the system for finding human cases, researchers have been conducting what are known as sero-surveys—drawing blood samples from groups of people who were likely exposed to the virus to see if they have antibodies specific to it. That would be a sign that they had been infected and survived. More than 20 such studies have been completed since 1997, when the first known cases of H5N1 infection in humans cropped up. Groups that have been tested included workers who culled infected chickens, health care workers who cared for H5N1 patients, people who worked in live animal markets and people who lived in villages where cases have occurred. The studies have been done in China, Indonesia, Nigeria, Cambodia, Thailand and elsewhere, important because different subfamilies of H5N1 viruses circulate in different parts of the world and some—hypothetically—may cause more severe disease than others.

Most of the sero-surveys have been small; few have contained more than 500 people. Whereas one study—among poultry market workers in Hong Kong in 1997—found around 10 per cent had H5N1 antibodies, most reported either no positives or low rates of people with antibodies. Some were under 1 percent, two were in the 3 to 4 percent range.

The study Racaniello drew on to argue H5N1 infection was more prevalent (and thus less lethal) than official numbers suggest looked for evidence of antibodies in 800 Thai adults living in villages where outbreaks of H5N1 had occurred in birds and where at least one human infection had been reported. The researchers found 5.6 percent had elevated antibodies to one H5N1 virus and 3.5 percent to another.

Not everyone agrees, however, that this particular study can be used to support Racaniello's argument. The threshold used in the Thai research as evidence of antibodies is substantially lower than most studies use. With a cutoff that low, says Malik Peiris, chair of the Department of Microbiology at the University of Hong Kong, one cannot be sure whether what is being detected is antibody-specific to H5N1, or antibodies to other flu viruses that happen to cross-react with the H5N1 test. Having low levels of antibodies that react to—and might even protect against—H5N1 does not prove that the person was infected with H5N1, Peiris says.

The senior author of the Thai study, Gregory Gray, chair of the Department of Environmental and Global Health at the University of Florida, says his group used the low threshold because they know antibody levels wane over time. They were looking for "subtle evidence" of infections that might have occurred years previous. But Gray says the results should not be overinterpreted. "It is a stretch to say this is population-based and also a stretch to say these all represented H5N1 infections," he says.

Although Krug, Treanor, Uyeki and Peiris all agree the official 59 percent H5N1 case fatality rate is not the true number, none takes much comfort from the fact. Krug is agitated that the controversy over the studies is drawing attention away from their key message—this virus can adapt to spread in mammals, which may include humans. And Treanor scoffs at the idea that concern over H5N1 is overblown. "If H5 is not dangerous, why are we even bothering to study it at all?" he asks. "I think it is without a doubt the case that it is not as dangerous as it looks from the cases that we have. But it is still without a doubt an extremely dangerous virus—particularly if it gained the ability to spread from person to person."

As for how far off the case/fatality rate is, there is no way of knowing. Uyeki, who has studied the issue at length, gives his estimate: "Are we missing some [cases]? Yeah, probably we're missing some. But are we missing hundreds of thousands? No, I don't think so. Are we missing tens of thousands? Probably not. Are we missing hundreds? Possibly. It's really hard to know."

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Helen Branswell , The Canadian Press

Date: Wednesday Feb. 15, 2012 7:09 AM ET

International experts, most from the influenza research world, started boarding planes Tuesday to head to the World Health Organization in Geneva for a meeting few researchers will have the chance to attend but which many will be watching from afar.

Myriad issues will be at stake in the process that the meeting will kick off: the health of a fledgling international agreement to share influenza viruses for research purposes; the type of transmission studies flu scientists are allowed to pursue and where they can do them; a potential -- and unwelcome by many -- precedent for the life sciences, the redaction of controversial H5N1 flu transmission studies.

But this gathering, organized by the World Health Organization and scheduled for Thursday and Friday, is only a start. And it is not expected to resolve the big-picture problems raised by the studies and the move by U.S. biosecurity experts to block full publication of them. Those will have to wait for a future, more inclusive meeting, the WHO has said.

In fact, this week's meeting appears to resemble an audit, with sessions devoted to tracing viruses from the source countries to the laboratories where the work was done, to a review of how the work was approved and funded through to a detailed look at the studies themselves.

"It sounds like a fact-finding mission," said Dr. D.A. Henderson, a distinguished scholar at the Center for Biosecurity of the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

The World Health Organization is saying little about the gathering, which will take place behind closed doors. And what the organization's spokespeople have said seems aimed at dampening expectations of major breakthroughs.

"The focus is very narrow," Christy Feig, WHO's director of communications, said recently from Geneva. "There's only so much ground you can cover in two days."

The participants list includes 22 scientists and officials from Indonesia, Vietnam, France, Britain, South Africa, China, Japan, the Netherlands, the United States and Australia.

Some are scientists at the labs that provided the original H5N1 viruses while others are from the labs -- the University of Wisconsin-Madison and Erasmus Medical Centre in Rotterdam, Netherlands -- where the research was conducted.

Also invited is an official of the Dutch Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport, which gave the Rotterdam lab clearance to do work that led to creation of a mutated H5N1 virus that spread easily among ferrets and was lethal to the animals. The work done in Wisconsin also resulted in a lab-made virus that transmitted efficiently, though it was not deadly in ferrets.

The two journals, Science and Nature, will be represented as will the National Science Advisory Board on Biosecurity, which moved to block full publication of the studies. Directors of the WHO's main influenza laboratories around the world are expected to attend, as is Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the U.S. National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which funded the now controversial research.

Fauci has had no hand in organizing the meeting but has been asked to present information on how the original grant applications from the two teams were reviewed and how his agency kept abreast of the work, he said in an interview.

Fauci will also explain clearance processes the two labs went through to do work with U.S. funding on a virus designated a "select agent" by the U.S. Agriculture Department. H5N1 viruses are not currently considered a select agent by USDA's human health counterpart agency, the Centers for Disease Control. But the CDC had to inspect the labs in Madison and Rotterdam before Fauci's agency could deliver the funding.

The meeting is expected to try to address some urgent issues, which may include figuring out which portions of the studies should be held back from publication.

But it is not expected that a decision will be taken on whether future transmission studies should be permitted. Nor is this group expected to come up with a system for figuring out how to vet applications from researchers or government officials who want to see the full studies, or how to share the studies in a way that minimizes the risk if they fall into unapproved hands.

Dr. Frederick Hayden, an influenza researcher from the University of Virginia and Britain's Wellcome Trust, acknowledges the process of sorting through the issues and problems the research has given rise to may be painful in the short term, but could lead to needed change over the long term.

"My hope is that this will promote discussions that really need to take place and probably should have taken place before," said Hayden, an antivirals expert who worked for a time at the WHO.

"There's really no agreed framework to try to decide which experiments are done, who's going to do them, where they're going to be done and how the results are going to be shared. ... It's been done on an institution-by-institution or country-by-country basis. There's not been a more considered approach."



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