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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:19 pm 
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Silence of WHO on the two recent trH3N2 (A/West Virginia/06/2011) and trH1N2 (A/Minnesota/19/2011) cases is deafening

http://www.who.int/csr/don/en/index.html

No news is bad news

http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option ... temid=2291

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:07 pm 
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Silence of WHO on the two recent trH3N2 (A/West Virginia/06/2011) and trH1N2 (A/Minnesota/19/2011) cases is deafening

http://www.who.int/csr/don/en/index.html

No news is bad news

http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option ... temid=2291

http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option ... temid=2469

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:31 pm 
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Silence of WHO on the two recent trH3N2 (A/West Virginia/06/2011) and trH1N2 (A/Minnesota/19/2011) cases is deafening

http://www.who.int/csr/don/en/index.html

No news is bad news

http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option ... temid=2291

http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option ... temid=2469

In the United States, in EW 48, at the national level, the proportion of ILI consultations (1.2%) remained below the national baseline (2.4%). The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza for EW 48 (6.7%) was lower than the epidemic threshold for this time of year (7.2%). In EW 48, two pediatric deaths associated with influenza were reported. Among all samples tested during EW 48 (n=2,233), the percentage of samples positive for influenza remained low (<2%), with sporadic detections of influenza A/H3, and influenza B. In EW 49, CDC3 reported two infections due to swine-origin influenza A virus in two children from two different states (Minnesota and West Virginia). One patient was infected by a novel influenza A/H1N2 and the other one by a novel influenza A/H3N2. Both patients recovered. Both viruses are known to circulate in the swine population in the United States and health authorities of both states have been tracing the contacts of the cases and looking for possible sources of the exposure. Thus far, no additional cases have been detected and no swine contact has been reported.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:51 pm 
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In EW 49, CDC3 reported two infections due to swine-origin influenza A virus in two children from two different states (Minnesota and West Virginia). One patient was infected by a novel influenza A/H1N2 and the other one by a novel influenza A/H3N2. Both patients recovered. Both viruses are known to circulate in the swine population in the United States and health authorities of both states have been tracing the contacts of the cases and looking for possible sources of the exposure. Thus far, no additional cases have been detected and no swine contact has been reported.

http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option ... temid=2469

The above statement on swine matches with either the Minnesota or West Virginia cases is false. The West Virginia case matches H3N2pdm11 in 7 of the 8 gene segments. N2 is from an unrelated trH3N2. the only swine isolate related to H3N2pdm11 is from NY, and it does not have a unique N2. There are no reported swine in North America or anywhere in the world that match the Minnesota case. Similarly, the trH1N2 case is a reassortant of the 2010 human cases, all of which have a H1N1pdm09 PB1 polymorphism, E618D. The only swine with E618D on a matching PB1 are the five trH3N2 Pennsylvania swine closely related to A/Pennsylvania/14/2010 and the one trH1N1 Minnesota swine, closely related to A/Minnesota/11/2011. There are no reported trH1N2 swine with a matching PB1 (non-H1N1pdm09) with E618D.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:00 pm 
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In EW 49, CDC3 reported two infections due to swine-origin influenza A virus in two children from two different states (Minnesota and West Virginia). One patient was infected by a novel influenza A/H1N2 and the other one by a novel influenza A/H3N2. Both patients recovered. Both viruses are known to circulate in the swine population in the United States and health authorities of both states have been tracing the contacts of the cases and looking for possible sources of the exposure. Thus far, no additional cases have been detected and no swine contact has been reported.

http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option ... temid=2469

The above statement on swine matches with either the Minnesota or West Virginia cases is false. The West Virginia case matches H3N2pdm11 in 7 of the 8 gene segments. N2 is from an unrelated trH3N2. the only swine isolate related to H3N2pdm11 is from NY, and it does not have a unique N2. There are no reported swine in North America or anywhere in the world that match the Minnesota case. Similarly, the trH1N2 case is a reassortant of the 2010 human cases, all of which have a H1N1pdm09 PB1 polymorphism, E618D. The only swine with E618D on a matching PB1 are the five trH3N2 Pennsylvania swine closely related to A/Pennsylvania/14/2010 and the one trH1N1 Minnesota swine, closely related to A/Minnesota/11/2011. There are no reported trH1N2 swine with a matching PB1 (non-H1N1pdm09) with E618D.

Isolates at GISAID with E618D on matching PB1:

EPI346499 A/Minnesota/19/2011 (A/H1N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI314789 A/swine/Minnesota/A01047613/2010 (A/H1N1) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI312979 A/Pennsylvania/40/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI307927 A/swine/Pennsylvania/057108-1/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI302685 A/swine/Pennsylvania/62170-4/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI302680 A/swine/Pennsylvania/62170-3/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI302673 A/swine/Pennsylvania/62170-2/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI302668 A/swine/Pennsylvania/62170-1/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI293963 A/Minnesota/11/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI291895 A/Wisconsin/12/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI291867 A/Pennsylvania/14/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI291840 A/Minnesota/09/2010 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)
EPI244299 A/Kansas/13/2009 (A/H3N2) segment 2 (PB1) 75.0 1.462028e-13 40/40 (100%)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:51 am 
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niman wrote:
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In EW 49, CDC3 reported two infections due to swine-origin influenza A virus in two children from two different states (Minnesota and West Virginia). One patient was infected by a novel influenza A/H1N2 and the other one by a novel influenza A/H3N2. Both patients recovered. Both viruses are known to circulate in the swine population in the United States and health authorities of both states have been tracing the contacts of the cases and looking for possible sources of the exposure. Thus far, no additional cases have been detected and no swine contact has been reported.

http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option ... temid=2469

The above statement on swine matches with either the Minnesota or West Virginia cases is false. The West Virginia case matches H3N2pdm11 in 7 of the 8 gene segments. N2 is from an unrelated trH3N2. the only swine isolate related to H3N2pdm11 is from NY, and it does not have a unique N2. There are no reported swine in North America or anywhere in the world that match the Minnesota case. Similarly, the trH1N2 case is a reassortant of the 2010 human cases, all of which have a H1N1pdm09 PB1 polymorphism, E618D. The only swine with E618D on a matching PB1 are the five trH3N2 Pennsylvania swine closely related to A/Pennsylvania/14/2010 and the one trH1N1 Minnesota swine, closely related to A/Minnesota/11/2011. There are no reported trH1N2 swine with a matching PB1 (non-H1N1pdm09) with E618D.

WHO has a FUNDAMENTAL misunderstanding of what is and what is not in public swine sequences.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:13 am 
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The above statement on swine matches with either the Minnesota or West Virginia cases is false. The West Virginia case matches H3N2pdm11 in 7 of the 8 gene segments. N2 is from an unrelated trH3N2. the only swine isolate related to H3N2pdm11 is from NY, and it does not have a unique N2. There are no reported swine in North America or anywhere in the world that match the Minnesota case. Similarly, the trH1N2 case is a reassortant of the 2010 human cases, all of which have a H1N1pdm09 PB1 polymorphism, E618D. The only swine with E618D on a matching PB1 are the five trH3N2 Pennsylvania swine closely related to A/Pennsylvania/14/2010 and the one trH1N1 Minnesota swine, closely related to A/Minnesota/11/2011. There are no reported trH1N2 swine with a matching PB1 (non-H1N1pdm09) with E618D.

WHO has a FUNDAMENTAL misunderstanding of what is and what is not in public swine sequences.

Absence of realistic WHO comments on the two most recent novel cases with no swine exposure significantly raises pandemic concerns.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:51 pm 
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ECDC THREAT ASSESSMENT FOR THE EU
In the context of the swine-origin triple reassortant A(H3N2) viruses, since November 2010 ECDC has been
collaborating with the Community Network of Reference Laboratories (CNRL) for Human Influenza in Europe and
the WHO Collaborating Centre specifically to address the diagnostic aspects of these viruses. This year, the
capability of European influenza reference laboratories to detect swine-origin triple reassortant viruses has been
assessed. It was shown that there is good capacity to detect SOIVtrH3N2-M viruses as influenza A viruses but with
restricted capability to subtype these viruses. Therefore it is important that all these viruses should be sent to the
WHO Collaborating Centre in London.
Diagnostic RT-PCR for generic influenza A virus (targeted to the M-gene) will detect swine-origin triple reassortant
A(H3N2) viruses as human influenza A. However, the subtype-specific RT-PCR for either H3 or N2 of human
influenza A viruses will most probably have a decreased sensitivity or will result in no detection of the SO-A(H3N2)
viruses. Probes directed against other genes, e.g. the nucleoprotein gene as was used during the early phase of
the 2009 pandemic caused by the A(H1N1)pdm09 virus, will enable preliminary differentiation between human
seasonal H3N2 viruses and these zoonotic H3N2 viruses. Therefore, swine-origin specific subtype RT-PCR,
antigenic characterisation, and partial or full genome sequencing are the most appropriate techniques to
distinguish between the human and these new zoonotic-origin influenza viruses.
The European influenza reference laboratories (National Influenza Centres or NICs) are aware of the detection
challenges and a number are updating their detection protocols to be able to make this distinction. Additionally, a
survey has been distributed to all remaining influenza reference laboratories in EU/EEA countries to understand the
existing strategies for detection of these viruses across national laboratories. Results of this survey are under
analysis. In addition a simple on-line survey is being undertaken to determine if and how NICs can detect the
newer virus with its M-gene from A(H1N1)pdm09.

http://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publicatio ... merica.pdf

ECDC acknowledging that most of its labs can't detect #trH3N2 and #trH1N2 novel influenza.

Europe's ability to detect novel H3N2 found wanting, ECDC says
Posted By: NCCID on December 15, 2011
CIDRAP, December 14, 2011

Europe has not detected the triple-reassortant H3N2 swine-origin (trH3N2) viruses that have been detected in U.S. residents, but its ability to detect them is lacking, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) said in a risk assessment update on the situation yesterday. In the update, which notes the 11th U.S. case of trH3N2 infection that was confirmed by CDC officials Dec 9, the agency says that no such viruses have been detected in European pigs. It does describe, however, "weak veterinary surveillance for influenza throughout the EU." The trH3N2 found in the United States contains genetic material from the 2009 H1N1 flu virus. The ECDC also says that Europe has good capacity to detect the novel virus as influenza A viruses but has "restricted capability to subtype these viruses." The agency adds, "Therefore it is important that all these viruses should be sent to the WHO Collaborating Centre in London." The update says Europe is fine-tuning detection protocols to better subtype flu viruses and is assessing EU reference labs about their capabilities and strategies.
http://www.nccid.ca/news/europe-s-abili ... c-says/250

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Two additional variant influenza A virus infections were detected in children in the United States of America. One case from West Virginia was infected with the influenza A(H3N2) variant virus with genes from swine, human, and avian lineages. The M gene was from the A(H1N1)pdm09 virus. This is the eleventh human infection with this variant A(H3N2) virus. The other case from Minnesota was infected with an influenza A(H1N2) virus that circulates in swine in the United States. This is the second case of human infection with this influenza A(H1N2) virus initially reported to CDC, Atlanta, in 2007

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