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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:02 pm 
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This pig scramble looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for the amusing link.

If this is a full blown flu pandemic then I say we need more of them. This strain seems very mild and has really curtailed H1N1. Got to be a good thing.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-inf ... s-die.html?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:06 pm 
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cpg wrote:
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This pig scramble looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for the amusing link.

If this is a full blown flu pandemic then I say we need more of them. This strain seems very mild and has really curtailed H1N1. Got to be a good thing.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-inf ... s-die.html?

Stay under the bed.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:45 am 
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cpg wrote:
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This pig scramble looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for the amusing link.

If this is a full blown flu pandemic then I say we need more of them. This strain seems very mild and has really curtailed H1N1. Got to be a good thing.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-inf ... s-die.html?

The key word above is SEEMS. The novel trH3N2 is just getting started in its new host and the data thus far is very minimal. 6 of the 7 cases were children and 2 of the 6 were hospitalized and at least one more was diagnosed at an emergency department because of breathing difficulties. The only adult (59M) was hospitalized for three days. Thus, the claim of "mild" is quite a stretch since the hospitalization rate is high, and reporting is abysmal. There is no commercial test and state labs neeed to send samples to the CDC for confirmation, which has produced confimations in a VERY small sub-set, those with some sort of perceived "exposure" to swine.

Moreover, if trH3N2 is going to crowd out another sub-clade, seasonal H3N2 would be far more likely than pandemic H1N1, leading to two distinct triple reassortants co-circulating in human populations (trH1N1 and trH3N2), setting the stage for serious evolution and adaptation. All of the trH3N2's have D225G, raising concerns that co-circulation will increase the frequency of D225G in H1N1pdm09.

As a reminder, pdm stands for PANDEMIC, so crowding out would produce H3N2pdm11 co-circulating with H1N1pdm09, which would be a VERY dangerous combination.

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