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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:56 am 
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niman wrote:
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8 deaths reported in week 16 (which is still above 10% because death totals across the board are lower, which may be linked to holiday)

Three week total now at 51 deaths

http://wonder.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr_reps.as ... r_table=4A

8 P&I wk16 deaths is highest wk16 total since 2003 (when excessive Fujian H3N2 deaths led to requirement for reporting of influenza pediatric deaths in US).

The three week death toll of 51 is the highest three week total in the past 15 years. The prior record was 45 deaths in weeks 3-5 in 2000 (weeks 3-5 is the height of flu season). Last year the three week total for weeks 14-16 was 13 and the highest 3 weaks for the 2009/2011 season was 17. The death rate for the past three weeks in El Paso was 15.60%, almost double the epidemic threshold.

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:04 am 
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gsgs wrote:
but there is no flu in El Paso

very low humidity 15%, 18-30°C


http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/ ... FFS=&SORT=

If there is no flu in El Paso, Texas because of the weather, does that mean that there is no Chihuahua H1N1 subclade next door in Juarez, Mexico, and are the reported lab confirmed deaths and sequences some kind of conspiracy??????????

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:13 am 
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Juarez is different, they speak Spanish.
Spanish produces more droplets

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:19 am 
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Juarez is different, they speak Spanish.
Spanish produces more droplets

And do they also have a high number of traveling salespeople??????
You have clearly gone off the deep end.
Is H1N1 produced spontaneously (just add water)?????????????

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:55 am 
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Commentary

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/04281 ... PI_51.html

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:21 pm 
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gsgs wrote:
Juarez is different, they speak Spanish.
Spanish produces more droplets

So are you saying that instead of training physicians to care for H1N1 ICU patients in Juarez, or launching a massive vaccination program, the Mexican government should focus on teaching sign language and have everyone in Mexico stop talking?????

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:24 pm 
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gsgs wrote:
Juarez is different, they speak Spanish.
Spanish produces more droplets

Speaking of the spread of H1N1 via droplets linked to speaking Spanish, you are just about the only person that refers to pandemic H1N1 as mex-flu. H1N1 was detected in Mexico, the US, and Canada at about the same time in March/April, 2009. Have you assigned the origin to Mexico based on some kind of spit analysis?

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
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According to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, El Paso had 24 pneumonia- and influenza-related deaths in the week of April 11 and 19 such deaths in the previous week — most of whom were 65 or older, the El Paso Times reported.

That’s up from 12 such deaths reported in the same period last year, and so far this year there have been 121 flu- and pneumonia-related deaths, more than double the 57 deaths reported at this point in 2010, the Times said.

City health officials said, however, that the number of reported cases have declined during the past several weeks, the paper said.

As of Tuesday, there were 19 confirmed flu cases reported so far in April, compared with 357 in January, 302 in February and 136 in March, officials told the Times.

“There is no indication about any outbreak or any emergency situation regarding influenza of any type,” Fernando Gonzalez, lead epidemiologist for El Paso’s Department of Public Health, told the Times. “During these first four months in El Paso, we have seen a big number of influenza cases, which means the number of deaths has increased as well.”

Officials said that the increase in El Paso’s flu cases has nothing to do with an apparent outbreak of the H1N1 flu virus across the border in Juarez, the Times said.

So far, seven people infected with the H1N1 virus have died in Juarez since March 20, and 83 people have contracted the virus since March 22, when the H1N1 outbreak was discovered in Juarez and Chihuahua, officials said in a statement.

Flu season usually lasts from October to March, but Gonzalez told the Times that it’s never too late to get flu shots.

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2011/04/ ... alert.html

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
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They have to be joking. I mean, really, how far are public health officials willing to go to deny that there is a problem?

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Officials said that the increase in El Paso’s flu cases has nothing to do with an apparent outbreak of the H1N1 flu virus across the border in Juarez, the Times said.

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:50 pm 
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Jim wrote:
They have to be joking. I mean, really, how far are public health officials willing to go to deny that there is a problem?

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Officials said that the increase in El Paso’s flu cases has nothing to do with an apparent outbreak of the H1N1 flu virus across the border in Juarez, the Times said.

This is all about message management.

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