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Wow, you are all really that scared. That is too bad. Life is too short to worry about all this. It is what it is and if it is your number there is no changing it.

Live your life and enjoy it. Sure you can be prepared, but you really need to keep some common sense in there.

I live in a city, what should I do, hide in the mountains, please. If it is time, so be it.

I wish you all could relax and calm down. You can run but you cannot hide.

I wish all the best to all of you and be careful driving out there, because the horrific weather is more likely to kill you right now.

Preparation is the key. I don't live in fear and I don't preach anything other than being prepared. If you don't prepare, you will become a statistic, or a danger to others if you survive. Those that live in cities and don't prepare will become one of 3 types of people IF a catastrophe occurs:

1) Walking Dead -- Even though you survived the initial event, you will most likely die within the year (worst case scenario event of course).
2) Victim -- Others that are in the city and unprepared or criminal in nature will victimize you.
3) Predator -- You will use whatever means necessary to take what you need, even by force if necessary, from those around you.

This is not fear mongering and this is not guesswork. The facts are clear that IF a catastrophic event occurs large cities will become the haven of roaming gangs and thugs, if they are inhabitable at all. City blocks are extremely difficult to defend effectively and urban warfare is quick, ugly and extremely messy. If you need to get confirmation on this, as the Marines and Army grunts that have been through Iraq and Afghanistan. (Someone will bring up mountain warefare here most likely, that isn't what I am talking about).

If you think a catastrophe CAN'T occur....well, you need more help and guidance than I can provide.

In regards to your comments about how I "live my lfe", this is my life:
1) I work full time in downtown Chicago.
2) My wife is pregnant and we are happily expecting.
3) Yesterday I took my other two kids and my wife to the Science and Industry Museum in Chicago.
4) We go roller skating, out to eat, to the mall, shopping, etc.
5) I am the Den leader for my son's Cub Scout Den.
6) I volunteer for the Salvation Army.
7) I am a member of the Freemasons and volunteer regularly through them.

Hmmm....certainly doesn't sound like the picture you painted of me, does it? Certainly FEELS like I am living my life and enjoying it.

Being prepared is NOT the same as being paranoid. Stop trolling forums on here looking for a fight. You have quite a few posts on these forums, I am amazed you would post like this, unless all of your posts are like this.

TheChanger

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I'm not a doctor, and I don't play one on TV....

One does not have to be crazy to believe in conspiracies, but one MUST be crazy to dismiss them out of hand....

I don't worry about me and mine. If my number is up so be it. I worry more about the city folk who have never touched a dirt clod. I have thought about what would happen like the shows on New Madrid fault. My kids know how to plant a seed. And milk a cow. I would guess if surveyed less than 1/3 of the population had significant survival skills today. So in that respect those shows are great. At least they will think about it.

First, are you preparing for the end because of this H1N!? Are you preparing due to some horrific mutation or are you preparing for some other type of disaster? I am confused. What do you think is going to happen, I am just curious, because now you are making me more paranoid than I already am.
You got it all wrong. I was not making fun of you, nor was I trying to pick a fight. I understand being prepared, but you are really prepared and it does sound a lttle paranoid to me, thats all. IMHO. It sounds like you have a wonderful life. I am not trolling around either trying to pick a fight. I just happened to be reading a few different things and came to this site. But some of the previous posts are way out there, too. Wow, wrong place to come for me. If you got your vaccine and it does not mutate, further into something more virulent, you will all be fine. Have a good day. I did not mean any offense.
Mary

Hi, am new to this site but find all the info on here intriguing. I live in the UK where everyone panics over a few flurries of snow. I am pretty clued up about the potential severity of this flu but am sorta unprepared as to what I should do for myself and loved ones should there be a state of emergency. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have gasmasks( ), a solar powered radio, a months' supply of food and medication for 3 mths. This could turn out to be the next, 'big one'?? Forwarned is forearmed, prepare for the worst, expect the best...

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I would think people in Europe would be more prepared just because of past history of war. Is that correct?

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RIP Miep~ you were/ still are a hero. God Bless your soul.

Live life, enjoy it and be prepared for anything all at the same time! Some of this information is terrific for both its calming & relaxing properties. Warning: If you are scared or fear easily I wouldn't try to tackle any of this, most especially if you think life is too short.

Exercise that brain, go beyond that plain old common sense & complacency mind set, pick your own number, after all you are not powerless in steering your fate towards a positive direction.


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I am preparing due to the overwhelming sense of "something" coming down the pipe. It is well known that every generation feels that it is the last in many ways and there are harbingers to be found at all times if one is looking for them, but the current sense of "something coming" is for the first time coupled with international and even planetary events that cannot be ignored. I do not believe that terrorists can bring about an end, nor do I believe that another world war is on the near horizon, but if there were a catastrophic flu pandemic worldwide that were to disrupt food and water supplies across the globe, there will be serious repercussions.

Although war is not looming and terrorists should not be able to plummet our nation into chaos, a global food or water shortage (either due to flu pandemic, drought or any other reason) would certainly change the landscape and create a situation where a major catastrophe could occur. Do you think Russia or China will respect international borders if they cannot feed their people, or cannot gain access to water? How about oil? Right now there are international trade agreements that allow the transfer of goods and services and keep CERTAIN things balanced in a "status quo" that although not fair, is acceptable. If the status quo changes, other changes will follow quickly, and most likely violently. Here are some examples of issues at hand:

1) Peak Oil - We all know about it...so there it is.

2) Freshwater Reserves - Only about 3% of water on Earth is fresh, and it is being bought up at astounding rates by private companies that sell it for profit, and we are pumping over 30 BILLION gallons of groundwater out of the Earth every day. One of the major water companies recently tried to buy a good portion of the Great Lakes.

3) The US Dollar - China is trying to get Arab countries to sell oil to them for currency OTHER than the US dollar. If this occurs many economists believe the US Dollar could drop instantly to 3/4 or even 4/5 of it's current value. Now the gas for your car that costs $3.00/gallon suddenly costs anywhere from $8.00 - $10.00/gallon....OVERNIGHT. Food costs would increase as well and many places in the USA would suffer nearly immediate shortages of everything from food to medicine. Sadly, due to the economic standing of the USA and that of China, this is a realistic possibility, and would most likely cause a significant increase in fighting in the Middle East as the USA would be have to take over oil resources by force.

4) Flu Pandemic - This is the most likely scenario, and therefore the subject of most discussions. If you read back through this thread you will find LOTS of great information about how society as a whole will break down rather quickly if faced with a major flu pandemic. H1N1 2009 has so FAR been extremely tame. One small genetic mutation, one recombination with another flu bug and we could be in serious trouble. In 1918 there were stories of people being perfectly fine in the morning and stone cold dead that same evening. H1N1 2009 is nearly identical genetically to the flu virus from 1918. Most estimates put the percentages in 1918 at 1/3 of the WORLD population infected and 1/4 of the infected dead. Take that in today's standard and that is 2.1 billion infected and roughly 500 million dead. That is more than the entire US population folks. Taking into account the travel patterns in this country and how quickly this could spread.....if it hits the US first we may lose millions of people within just a few weeks.

Now, I dont live my life in fear, hiding in my closet or cleaning my guns. I may be one of the first to die if a major catastrophe occurs. My whole family may be wiped out immediately, or in the case of a flu, infected very early. On the other hand, I may survive. My family may not get infected, or be involved in the catastrophe. That means I have a wife and three kids to provide food, shelter and protection in a situation that by it's very definition will be scary as hell.

I for one made the decision long ago to prepare myself in case something does happen. All of my preparation may fail. There is a chance nothing will ever happen. Maybe I will die of old age with my family surrounding me and talking about "crazy old dad" and his flashlights and first aid kits. I certainly hope that is what happens, for all of us.

TheChanger

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I'm not a doctor, and I don't play one on TV....

One does not have to be crazy to believe in conspiracies, but one MUST be crazy to dismiss them out of hand....