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 Post subject: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:49 am 
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I actually saw this link somewhere here on the forum, but can't find it anymore. But this is important enough to repost.
It is an article about the well-know protective benefits of Vitamin D:
http://www.examiner.com/x-6012-State-of ... -swine-flu
Vitamin D is all over the news now and numerous scientific articles have been published lately. if you want to Google it (in news and on the web), put in: "Vitamin D" and flu.
What is more scary is that the article also talks about the conspiracy theory that the flu pandemic is an orchestrated attempt to
a - reduce the population, and especially weak, fat and pregnant people
b - Take the opportunity during a crisis and turn our democracy into a socialized republic. (Now this is my thinking). Which would mean total government control and the end of freedom as we know it.
If you want to know more about this, please listen to FOX News and Glenn Beck.
But Obama has surrounded himself with radicals and communists - and you can't tell me this doesn't mean anything:
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articl ... 9831/?ck=1


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:56 am 
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Vitamin D, Vitamin C and Garlic are INEXPENSIVE supplements.

Though there is no definitive double-blind scientific studies on them,
it is safe to take them as an added layer of defense/insurance against pandemic H1N1.

It seems to me the following layers of defense strategy make sense:
(1). Practice Non-Pharmaceutical Intervention as much as possible:
(1A). Washing hands frequently. Use hand sanitizer frequently.
(1B). Practice social distancing. Wear a mask in croweded place.
(1C). Wear a mask when one suspects being sick with flu.
(1D). Take additional Vitamin D, Vitamin C and Garlic when one suspects one might be infected.
(2). If NPI fails, one falls back on anti-viral drugs (Tamiflu etc).
(3). Hope that pandemic H1N1 vaccine will be safe and effective, EVENTUALLY

The above strategy is better than "just sit there and take it", as the media brain
wash the public that "it is just a mild flu".

As far as conspiracy goes, I would like to quote what President's advisor
Rham Emannuel is fond of saying:
"Don't let a crisis go to waste"


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:31 pm 
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SMonte wrote:
It is an article about the well-know protective benefits of Vitamin D:
http://www.examiner.com/x-6012-State-of ... -swine-flu
Vitamin D is all over the news now and numerous scientific articles have been published lately. if you want to Google it........


EXCERPT FROM ABOVE STORY.......
Reason #3) They know about vitamin D but they are intentionally withholding information from the American people In essence, they want to keep the American people nutritionally illiterate so that they remain "victims" in the coming influenza crisis. Because of who's involved in this (the White House, FDA, CDC, WHO and many others), it cannot be called anything other than a conspiracy of silence about influenza and vitamin D.

I guess I should say that while the above story does have some legitimate information, it also tends towards the whackadoodle crowd a bit, which unfortunately can turn some people off. It's probably ridiculous to think the government is behind some big conspiracy to keep Vitamin D info away from people. I think a much more plausible explanation is simply that some people are simply ignorant, an unfortunate situation I run into often.

It should be pointed out that we have another great Vitamin D thread here, and it can be read here..... viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3443&start=0

Perhaps some good moderator can merge THAT thread into this one, as we do have more than 1.


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:24 pm 
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What I love about coming to a predominately American forum - the paranoia and finding of conspiracies in everything.
Really, what Do THEY put in your water?


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:28 pm 
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WWOTN wrote:
What I love about coming to a predominately American forum - the paranoia and finding of conspiracies in everything.
Really, what Do THEY put in your water?


:rotfl:
That's why some of us drink Italian wine.


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:13 pm 
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TMV wrote:
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They know about vitamin D but they are intentionally withholding information from the American people In essence, they want to keep the American people nutritionally illiterate so that they remain "victims"

WWOTN wrote:
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What I love about coming to a predominately American forum - the paranoia and finding of conspiracies in everything.
Really, what Do THEY put in your water?

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LOL For a "conspiracy of silence" that is "intentionally withholding information" about Vit D and influenza, there sure are a lot of Google hits on the subject -- only 15 MILLION or so for vit D, 786,000 for a combined search Vit D AND influenza, and 135,000 for a triple term search with Vit D + influenza + .gov. "THEY" aren't very good at "conspiring, it would appear. :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:44 pm 
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WWOTN wrote:
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What I love about coming to a predominately American forum - the paranoia and finding of conspiracies in everything.
Really, what Do THEY put in your water?

The lack of any indication of humor in your comment above leads me to think you are actually serious about it. I just wonder whether it was your intent to insult Americans in general, or just those on this forum. :rolleyes:

Conspiracy stories have been propagated over the centuries by - well.... you name the nationality - Danish, French, German, Italian, British, Russian, Australian, and Chinese - just to name a few that I think of off the top of my head at the moment. Conspiracy stories are in no way uniquely American.

History would probably tell us that a conspiracy story has even been put forward somewhere sometime in your own country by your own countrymen.

Just sayin' :)


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:45 pm 
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The Mountains Voice wrote:
BTW - can someone please tell us if this thread will be merged with the other one, or that one with this one, or are mergers only done when VJP requests it? It would help keep the board more organized if we could figure out what process is being used. Or is appropriate to make the request in a thread of it's own?


I don't appreciate your accusation. You can take them up with the moderators or site owners.

Perhaps if you had contributed anything besides your infatuation with Vitamin D, you would have earned more street cred here.

The primary purpose of this site has always been to count cases of H1N1. Most of us have accepted that and done it willingly. Any other discussion has been allowed through the good graces of the site owners. They are paying for it, after all.

And full disclosure: I do not have, nor never had, any other names here other than VJP.


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:48 pm 
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saraseer wrote:
History would probably tell us that a conspiracy story has even been put forward somewhere sometime in your own country by your own countrymen.

Just sayin' :)


In Canada, eh?
They just get leftover American conspiracy theories 10 years later.
;)


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 Post subject: Re: Vitamin D
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:00 am 
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VJP wrote:
The Mountains Voice wrote:
BTW - can someone please tell us if this thread will be merged with the other one, or that one with this one, or are mergers only done when VJP requests it? It would help keep the board more organized if we could figure out what process is being used. Or is appropriate to make the request in a thread of it's own?


I don't appreciate your accusation. You can take them up with the moderators or site owners.

Perhaps if you had contributed anything besides your infatuation with Vitamin D, you would have earned more street cred here.

The primary purpose of this site has always been to count cases of H1N1. Most of us have accepted that and done it willingly. Any other discussion has been allowed through the good graces of the site owners. They are paying for it, after all.

And full disclosure: I do not have, nor never had, any other names here other than VJP.

I have no idea what you are talking about, nor do I care.

BTW - here's a link to the primary Vitamin D & Influenza thread if someone wants to merge them....
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3443


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