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I also would be interested in a Co-Infection Scenario...

Discount nothing...I wouldn't...

Leptospirosis is an unlikely candidate for the present scenario. It does not spread from one person to another and is only transmitted through aqueous environments. If there were an inundation - with nice and warm water... maybe.

Is there any other Type A influenza circulating in the US at present?

I think in the last CDC report there was 2 H1N1 (not pandemic), 2 H3N2, and 14 B samples of a flu other than H1N1

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/

According to the article at the following link, Arkansas has recently recorded two deaths from seasonal flu.
http://www.newsrunner.com/display-artic ... toll+at+18

Is this possible?

Thanks!

Here is the line from the article:



I think it is possible that the seasonal deaths occurred in the first quarter of 2009. This year, but not recent. If so, they could have worded it better.

Thought I heard Dr. Niman say on Rense that 10% of hospitalizations in California died. If the CDC is saying that 60,000-110,000 Americans have been hospitalized and 67,000 Ukranians (add in the factor of a less able health system and the possibility of a more lethal virus) the death toll will stack up quickly. Maybe I misunderstood or this number was for those admitted to ICU or some other criteria. Looking for clarification thanks.

10% seems a bit high. I think we were quoted a 1% death rate of H1N1 patients admitted to ICU which would be the sickest of the sick. This appears to be what we have expereinced so far. This estimate was based on the previous outbreaks this year.

The death rate for hospitalizations is 5-10%, and for ICU cases possibly as high as 20-40%. From the state of California swine flu statistics page, http://www.cdph.ca.gov/data/statistics/ ... uData.aspx , the current number of confirmed cumulative hospitalizations is 5380 and deaths 297. That's a death rate of 5.5%, which is consistent with current nationwide CDC numbers. But often there is a lag between hospitalization and mortality. Over the summer, dividing the deaths in one week by the hospitalizations in the previous week gave a pretty consistent 10% mortality rate.

Again, that is all hospitalizations. For ICU cases, go the link for provisional data by jurisdiction. This gives a statewide total of 851 confirmed severe cases, 812 confirmed ICU cases, and 249 confirmed deaths. Not all fatal cases were admitted to the ICU, but if most of them were that gives a ~30% fatality rate for ICU patients.

I think the consistent numbers that have been emerging is that 1 in 500 symptomatic cases are hospitalized (look at the ACHA numbers for college students) and 6% - 10% of all hospitalized cases will probably end up being fatal.

thanks for the responses