situation on Ukraine

emrj · **Joined:** Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:31 am **Posts:** 142

Today's chart from the Ministry of Health has total deaths at 135 from ILI/ARDS.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... Lu_3EYKicw

niman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:59 pm

rob wrote:

Yeah, I saw the number discrepancy, I was wondering if he was stating new cases and deaths today, since the 109 figure is mentioned later.

Actually, I was using the quote from the article to show that WHO assumes that the ARI cases (which are now 3/4 million) are largely H1N1, so citing a handful of confirmed H1N1 cases just shows how little testing is being done.

niman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:02 pm

emrj wrote:

Today's chart from the Ministry of Health has total deaths at 135 from ILI/ARDS.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... Lu_3EYKicw

It is much worse than that. The case number is over 871,000 and almost all Obalst are in RED (exceed pandemic threshhold). Hospitalizations almost 40K.

andre10056 · **Joined:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:20 pm **Posts:** 374

Help is on the way!

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/52093/

Does the phrase "too little, too late" come to mind?

ThePrepared_com · **Joined:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:23 pm **Posts:** 10

I think what I find most concerning is the lack of testing. Only a handful of tests have been done on close to 1,000,000 sick people?

I've heard of instances here in the US where doctors have been told to report all flu as H1N1 and carry on. Has anyone else heard the same? Also, what are the expert opinions on the vaccination for H1N1?

Tomek · **Joined:** Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:06 pm **Posts:** 57

Video news from Ukraine
Some from hospitals

http://korrespondent.net/video/ukraine

niman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:38 pm

ThePrepared_com wrote:

I think what I find most concerning is the lack of testing. Only a handful of tests have been done on close to 1,000,000 sick people?

I've heard of instances here in the US where doctors have been told to report all flu as H1N1 and carry on. Has anyone else heard the same? Also, what are the expert opinions on the vaccination for H1N1?

I the US they assume that a flu clinical presentation is a flu case. Testing centers are overwhelmed with samples from hospitalized cases, so mild cases are rarely tested.
There is NO doubt that the VAST majority of ARI cases in Ukraine are H1N1.

niman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:46 pm

Commentary

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11060 ... ne_4X.html

H1N1 Netherlands · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:41 pm

26 deaths in 1 day......

niman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:46 pm

H1N1 Netherlands wrote:

26 deaths in 1 day......

26 REPORTED deaths in 1 day.

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