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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:20 am 
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stephensons wrote:
http://www.wect.com/Global/story.asp?S=11986878

Thought I'd post this, maybe of some relevance.

More upper respiratory problems for children in Wilmington area
Posted: Feb 15, 2010 4:10 PM
Updated: Feb 15, 2010 4:16 PM
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More upper respiratory problems for children in Wilmington area

WILMINGTON, NC (WECT) - Upper respiratory illnesses are going around the Wilmington area.

According to Oak Island Pediatrics in Brunswick County, the respiratory problems can often lead to bronchitis. Symptoms include cough, chest congestion and sometimes fever.

Doctors are treating patients with antibiotics and breathing treatment with a nebulizer to break up the chest congestion.

Some of these symptoms are similar to the flu so doctors are testing for it, but so far none have come back positive. If your child has a cough for more than ten days you need to take them to see a doctor.

Doctors at Carolina Pediatrics have seen viral upper respiratory infections and advise parents to treat with fluids, saline drops in the nose and syringe out and use a humidifier.

They are also seeing wheezing in babies with a cold. Nebulizer treatments have helped. And there have been a few cases of strep throat. You will need to see a doctor to have an antibiotic prescribed for that.

Doctors at Cape Fear Pediatrics describe the flu as a dull roar. Most of the cases they have seen have been the H1N1 flu.

They are also seeing a viral stomach virus with fever and vomiting. RSV, a respiratory illness is at it's peak but can cause life threatening wheezing in infants so listen carefully for that and see a doctor for the best treatments options.

The above sounds much like reports in the fall, when schools were closing because of H1N1 (and no available staff), but students/staff were said to have seasonal flu, stomach flu, bronchitis, steph throat, allergies, etc, when in fact they all had H1N1 (and absenteeism was in the double digits)

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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
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This actually sounds like winter time illnesses. This is many URI's going around here in California, as well. The symptoms that people are having are totally different than what we had in the fall, at least here in Northern California. Zero to none absentee rate last week here.


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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
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niman wrote:
The above sounds much like reports in the fall, when schools were closing because of H1N1 (and no available staff), but students/staff were said to have seasonal flu, stomach flu, bronchitis, steph throat, allergies, etc, when in fact they all had H1N1 (and absenteeism was in the double digits


Well, if you go back to Sep 2 post in this thread, you can see the pattern starting all over again. Did we not learn anything???


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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:23 pm 
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Gator, I see your point. Humans never appear to learn from history..

Post from 2nd Sept 2009 on this thread.

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School officials sent home 35 to 40 Forestview High School students Wednesday.
Some of those students have swine flu, also known as novel virus H1N1, according to Gaston County Health Director Colleen Bridger.
“Some of these students have H1N1,” Bridger said. “We have been told that a couple of students have been told by their doctors that they have the flu. Anybody who has the flu right now has H1N1.”
But Bridger does not believe all of the students have the swine flu.
“The majority of the kids have fevers too low for me to think what they have is the flu,” she said.
People with swine flu typically have fevers of at least 101 degrees, Bridger said.


It really really worries me that the Gaston Counth Health Director does not realize that about 50% of the cases of swine flu present without a fever.

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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
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There should not be a repeat if people would get their kids immunized. Very irritating. :banghead:


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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
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http://www.recombinomics.com/News/02161 ... pread.html

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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
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ms4920 wrote:
There should not be a repeat if people would get their kids immunized. Very irritating. :banghead:

Why? This is a virus that has already hit people who are immunized and has repeatedly hit people who already had H1N1? I have yet to see convincing evidence that immunizations have done anything useful. In the fall, they never achieved a percentage immunization that was anywhere close to prevent another wave - and that was when everyone was afraid. Now, with another wave looming, the "fear factor" has dropped an order of magnitude lower. I highly doubt if we will see a significant new batch of immunizations unless this (or the next) wave turns very fatal.

I see no point to injecting chemicals into my body unnecessarily, particularly from those who have a free get-out-of-jail-card if they totally destroy my life with the injection. And given my own personal and close-family and friends experiences with the virus and the vaccine, it doesn't seem to have prevented other infections. I haven't seen any hard data to suggest it has - although I'm open to those who have access to such data.

As a bare minimum, I would rather wait for a D225G related vaccine before I make any serious decisions regarding vaccination now. Ideally, I would like some form of assurance that we won't have to have a "forever-injection" every year for the rest of our lives. That's probably wishful thinking, but it sure would be nice if they could figure it out, like they have for other diseases.


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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
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Pandora wrote:
ms4920 wrote:
There should not be a repeat if people would get their kids immunized. Very irritating. :banghead:

Why? This is a virus that has already hit people who are immunized and has repeatedly hit people who already had H1N1? I have yet to see convincing evidence that immunizations have done anything useful. In the fall, they never achieved a percentage immunization that was anywhere close to prevent another wave - and that was when everyone was afraid. Now, with another wave looming, the "fear factor" has dropped an order of magnitude lower. I highly doubt if we will see a significant new batch of immunizations unless this (or the next) wave turns very fatal.

I see no point to injecting chemicals into my body unnecessarily, particularly from those who have a free get-out-of-jail-card if they totally destroy my life with the injection. And given my own personal and close-family and friends experiences with the virus and the vaccine, it doesn't seem to have prevented other infections. I haven't seen any hard data to suggest it has - although I'm open to those who have access to such data.

As a bare minimum, I would rather wait for a D225G related vaccine before I make any serious decisions regarding vaccination now. Ideally, I would like some form of assurance that we won't have to have a "forever-injection" every year for the rest of our lives. That's probably wishful thinking, but it sure would be nice if they could figure it out, like they have for other diseases.



How many people, or do you have figures showing the ratio of immunized to non immunized people that got h1n1 after getting the vaccine? I do not know anyone who has been vaccinated that has got the h1n1. I know many who have got h1n1 and did not get vaccinated.
I am just tired of reading articles with all these children out of school or they die and no one got the vaccine because they are afraid of it. Believe me, I am not a big proponent of certain vaccines,but I think this one was a must. I still remember a statement Dr. Niman said regarding the 225G mutation and vaccine. It is better to have a blanket with holes in it than none at all. So, I believe, that this vaccine is helping with minimizing maybe more deaths and that is a plus right there. You seem very against vaccines. Should the 225G mutation happen tomorrow in your area, what are you going to do? I say the vaccine is the same as all the other flu vaccines, just tweaked a little different. IMO. I do not want to get into immunizing versus not. There is a thread for it, I believe.


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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
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Update from Nth Carolina Public Health Authority

http://www.epi.state.nc.us/epi/gcdc/flu0910.html

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 Post subject: Re: North Carolina
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stephensons wrote:
Update from Nth Carolina Public Health Authority

http://www.epi.state.nc.us/epi/gcdc/flu0910.html

First week with 3 deaths in 2010.

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