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Another lie from your ministry of health unless they consider "some" to mean "not significant". True, some studies do show a little boost in cross-responsive immunity in some subjects but not levels considered "protective". Against that is the unpublished Canadian study showing that people who received the seasonal vaccine last year were more likely to develop swine flu. Although the CDC says they cannot replicate this finding and advise people to take the seasonal jab as normal they repeat that you should not expect protection from swine flu from a seasonal vaccine.

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Prof. Zielinski: Mutations of the virus less sensitive to one drug
jagor, PAP
2009-11-23, last updated 43 minutes ago

In the case of 21 mutations in the influenza virus has been confirmed to reduce their sensitivity to the drug oseltamiwirum (Tamiflu) - admitted today the national epidemiology consultant, Professor. Andrzej Zielinski.

Also pointed out that these mutations are still sensitive to another antiviral drug - zanamivir (Relenza it comes to medicine, available only in hospitals). - There is no information to allow the virus to lose sensitivity to the vaccine - said prof. Zielinski.

- There are many variants of no great importance, but there are some that may be important, especially locally, including in Norway. For the moment there are no data that this mutation is spreading. The situation requires urgent follow-up. If the virus is more rife zajadliwy slower, harder, because people get sick and have no contact with others - emphasized the national epidemiology consultant.

Deaths from pneumonia or chronic illnesses

In Poland, so far six people have died A/H1N1 infected. As pointed out by Chief Sanitary Inspectorate, in all cases it is not the influenza virus was the cause of death of patients. Mainly it is the pneumonia or chronic diseases.

According to Professor. Zielinski, a matter of policy. - In such cases it is difficult to assess what had been the main cause of death. Is a matter of assessment, not the facts - the professor said. He added that complications such as execution pneumonia caused by the conduct of the flu.

Yesterday evening, died 22-years old man, in which confirmed the presence of A/H1N1 virus. Tomasz Misztal, he said the GIS, the virus was not the direct cause of death, because the man was sick with pneumonia and was burdened with GM. Patient died in hospital in the evening Człuchowie (Pomorskie Province). On Saturday, laboratory tests confirmed the presence of virus in his body.

Until now, the Polish territory has been confirmed about 580 new cases of influenza.

21 cases of H274Y in Poland? The total reported worldwide in the 20th November WHO update was only 57. Or is the report maybe referring to a wider region than Poland?

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3 more victims A/H1N1

tan, IAR, PAP
2009-11-23, last updated 13 minutes ago

3 more people died zrażone virus AH1N1. Chief Sanitary Inspectorate spokesman John Bondar said that the total number of deaths in Poland caused by new influenza is 9

In a hospital in Warsaw at ul. Niekłańskiej eight years old girl died today. Loading determine the causes of death.

Tests also confirmed the presence of A/H1N1 virus in the dead on Saturday, 16-year-old from Lodz who had cardiovascular disorders and 53-year-old man from Zgierz with respiratory insufficiency.

Looks like all governments are playing the H1N1 numbers game by concealing as many deaths as possible. They will tell us they are doing this to "avoid panic". Just my opinion, but the only reason for any anxiety is when people realize they are not getting the truth from ANY official direction.

Another favorite tactic to minimize the impact of the current H1N1 Pandemic is the use of "underlying conditions" when discussing the death of someone who was ill with H1N1. My response is always to ask how long would the deceased have lived if he or she had not been infected by the H1N1 virus? A day? A week? A month? Years? If death was not imminent prior to being infected by H1N1, then the cause of death has to be H1N1. If the person was not terminally ill with some other disease prior to being infected by H1N1, then the cause of death has to be H1N1.

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97 thousand. incidence of the flu last week. One year ago: 3 thousand.
PAP
2009-11-23, last updated 2009-11-23 20:19

More than 97 thousand. cases and suspected cases of influenza were registered in Poland in the third week of November. In the same period last year there were over 3 thousand. - According to data from the National Institute of Public Health National Institute of Hygiene.
Most patients for many years

According to the NIH, from 16 to 22 November 2009 were registered in Poland in total 97 thousand. Disease and 53 suspected cases of influenza. Average daily incidence was 36.4 per 100 thousand. people. It is the largest number of cases this time of year in recent years. For comparison, last year from 16 to 22 November confirmed 3 thousand. 179 cases and suspected cases of influenza.

New flu: 600 confirmed cases

Until now, the Polish territory has been confirmed about 600 cases of influenza A/H1N1 virus infection. Nine people died.

Today, informed of the death of three people infected with A/H1N1 virus, including an eight-year girl from Warsaw. The girl died at Children's Hospital in Warsaw at ul. Niekłańskiej. Tests also confirmed the presence of A/H1N1 virus in the dead on Saturday, 16-year-old from Lodz, which had treated since September in connection with disorders of the circulatory system and 53-year-old man from Zgierz with bilateral pneumonia and respiratory failure.

He died on a hospital patient in Kielce infected with type A, whether it was the A/H1N1 virus, have demonstrated for further research. The patient was admitted to hospital on Saturday. 27-year-old also had additional diseases associated with respiratory failure.

The virus mutates. Sometimes the drugs do not work

National epidemiology consultant, Professor. Andrzej Zielinski, PAP said that in the case of 21 mutations in the influenza virus has been confirmed to reduce their sensitivity to the drug oseltamiwirum (Tamiflu). Also pointed out that these mutations are still sensitive to another antiviral drug - zanamivir (Relenza it comes to medicine, available only in hospitals).

It is sounding like there were 21 cases of H274Y in Poland, which would be a VERY big deal because I susp[ect only a limited number have been tested.

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That's what the current reports look like but there's a news item from 3 days ago that quotes the same source Andrzej Zielinski saying ( http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... ISO-8859-2 ) "- We knew that this threat exists - said Andrzej Zielinski. - Jak na razie na świecie stwierdzono 21 szczepów wirusa grypy A/H1N1, które są odporne na Tamiflu , ale nie są one oporne na inne szczepionki, tak więc nie ma tragedii – dodał. - So far in the world were 21 influenza A/H1N1 virus strains that are resistant to Tamiflu, but they are not resistant to other vaccines, so there is no tragedy - he added.". That suggests a worldwide figure but doesn't correspond to the real worldwide figure so I'm still not sure where this number is coming from.