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Germany: 13.180 Infected, 350 New-Infections

20.08.2009 - Germany has the highest number of H1N1 infected cases in Europe! With the release of the latest numbers for the last 24 hours from the Robert-Koch-Institute, Germany now is in leading position with 13,180 infections. This can change on Friday when Great Britain will update their weekly numbers. 350 new infections were registered by the RKI. Among these were again 23 travel returnees and 77 infections aquired within Germany.
This is how the numbers stack up within the counties:

Nordrhein-Westfalen (4.519)*
Niedersachsen (2.225)*
Baden-Württemberg (1.628)*
Bayern (1.250)*
Rheinland-Pfalz (774)*
Hessen (657)*
Berlin (310)*
Hamburg (286)*
Schleswig-Holstein (247)
Sachsen (237)*
Sachsen-Anhalt (235)*
Brandenburg (206)*
Saarland (204)
Thüringen (186)*
Bremen (111)*
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (105)*
* = New cases added on 18.08.2009, 3:00PM
Counted since 15.7.2009 laboratory cases and all patients with clear signs from the environment of laboratory cases, even without H1N1 test. The RKI noted that infections acquired in Germany continue to rise. It was also determined that the labs are increasingly confirming suspected H1N1 cases. (Text: © Kiwi vision data: RKI)

http://www.schweinegrippe-h1n1.seuchen-info.de/

21/08/2009
Germany: 13.740 Infected, 560 New-Infections, 0 Deaths

http://www.schweinegrippe-h1n1.seuchen-info.de/

24/08/2009
Germany: Latest update for the last 24 hours from the Robert-Koch Institute. Numbers collected up to last Friday, 3PM:

14.325 Infected, 585 New-Infections, 0 Deaths

362 cases were travelers returning home, 223 cases of H1N1 were acquired in Germany. Cases acquired in Germany are on the rise and are a cause for high concern. But at least the number of new infections has been on a slight decline for the last 3 weeks.

http://www.schweinegrippe-h1n1.seuchen-info.de/

Germany: 14.581 Infected, 256 New-Infections

25.08.2009 - In the time period from Saturday to Monday, 3PM, the Robert-Koch-Institute received confirmations of 256 new cases of H1N1 flu. Generally there are fewer reports over the weekend. This means that in the last 7 days 2,088 people got sick with the swine flu. Only cases are counted where patients contacted a doctor. Nobody has died so far.

http://www.schweinegrippe-h1n1.seuchen-info.de/

County of Nordrhein-Westfalen: Maternity leave for pregnant women widened!

25.08.2009 - Pregnant women in North Rhine-Westphalia in professional fields with patient contact are from now on enjoying special protection. They do not have to perform activities that pose an increased risk of swine flu exposure. This is a recommendation of the Regional Institute for Health and Labor. This ruling applies to hospitals and medical practices. The recommendation was issued due to the warning by the WHO that pregnant women are particularly at risk.
The recommendation, however, does not include a stop on employment: An exemption is not necessary when there is work in which the pregnant employee will not be in contact with patients, said Paul Jansing from the institute.
It is conceivable to use pregnat woman in administration or accounting jobs. Doctors should be the ones to decide.
If pregnant workers are sent home, the cost will be paid out of a levy fund, the same one that normally pays for maternity leave.

http://www.schweinegrippe-h1n1.seuchen-info.de/

Conflict between federal and state governments continues

25.08.2009 - Federal and state governments were unable to reach an agreement yesterday over the dispute of financing the swine flu vaccination.
Only the financing of 35 million Germans has been decided. The health insurances will pay for that.
But because anyone who would like to be vaccinated will get the chance, money to cover vaccinations for up to 64 million people will have to be raised.
So far the counties are refusing to cover those costs. The negotiating parties claim that these are unplanned, special expenditures.
Hermann Goebe, Minister of State says that all is needed are more discussions to come to an agreement. The only problem is that these debates are delaying more vaccine orders. Orders that should be placed now.
One of the questions is, will more than 35 million people even want to be vaccinated. Tests done in a hurry, fear of health issues and already known side effects may deter many.
Just yesterday it was announced that immunizing only 5% of the population would be more than enough to stop the spread of the swine flu.
But this would mean that children and their parents would have to be immunized - and not as previously planned pregnant woman, chronically ill and medical personal.

http://www.schweinegrippe-h1n1.seuchen-info.de/

So-o-o-o, Herr Monte...
Kann es sein dass Sie in Deutschland doch wohnen? Es scheint als wann Sie in Deutschland spezialisiert sind? Wenn richtig, darf ich mal fragen, genau wo (ich habe stets lange Jahren in Oberbayern gewohnt)?

Zur Sache... I have listed this publication, elsewhere, on the FluTracker forum:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?artid=2554200&pageindex=10#page
Journal List > Bull World Health Organ > v.8(5-6); 1953
Bull World Health Organ. 1953; 8(5-6): 633–645. PMCID: PMC2554200
Copyright notice
Trend of influenza mortality during the period 1920-51
Z. Deutschman

In the same, there are also charts depicting the significant differences in Mortality Rates (General and Influenza) of all English "Great Towns over 100,000 pop" and German "Towns over 100,000 pop" (p635). During the 10-year period of the statistical analysis (1929 - 1939), both countries were fairly well matched in total population numbers... by 1939, they each had about 21-Million citizens... altho' England had many more such larger towns (126 to 57), than did Germany. Still and all, the charts clearly depict significant differences between the 2 competing cultures (similar royal lineages, I might add)... with Germany, clearly, being the "less contaminated" (perhaps, more logically and self-quarantined-disciplined?)... specifically, during the annual "flu seasons" and on an every year basis, accordingly.

Comparison, today, of total numbers of "confirmed cases", as well, deaths points out similar inconsistencies between Germany and England-and-her-former-Colonies. For that matter, with the exception of Spain... most of TheContinent appears to be experiencing nothing more than a 12-month-long extension of a highly infectious variant and replacement of the former version of "seasonal flu"? And... why-Why-WHY do you (as well, the eminent Suisse) think, that such might be the case... assuming, of course, one or both of you might agree with such contention?

For sake of simpler, relative comparison... let's consider the most current wikipedia totals (easy-to-read-sum-totals). It is obvious that the "super-majority" of fatalities related to TheFlu, continue to occur in the Western Hemisphere (despite all the chatter about international air travel). It has been ca. 5 months, since the "pandemic" first was recognized as threatening in Mexico and, shortly thereafter, broke into the light of the media and public awareness in the USA. Argentina, for instance, has ca. 40-Million population and Brazil, almost, 5x at at 190-Million. Something "different" is, obviously, happening down Argentina way... it clearly seems as if the whole border area of Uruguay-Paraguay-Chile-Brazil took off with their own set of problems... after the situation developed in Argentina.

Hard to believe, however, that so much more "international air traffic" was heading to Argentina as opposed to Europe over the course of the same set of months. Also, the consideration of "flu season" in the Southern Hemisphere is one thing; but, especially this "Pandemic Flu 2009" has proven to be, more than just-a-bit prolific (100,000 cases in UK?), here in the Northern Hemisphere. So-o-o-o... what's up... why mostly TheAmericas and Australia-NZ-SA (hardly anything else in Africa)? Sure, there's Thailand-Malaysia-Indonesia-India; but, there's whole stretches of other populations to "feed upon"... does TheFlu just love "shopping" ???

Very specifically, what is the difference between TheContinent-Europe and TheAmericas (including TheEnglish, who always seem to have been more pre-destined for contagion)? Of course, I have my own opinion... but, what of yours? Any other "EuroContinentals-out-There" (Continentals, in the days just prior to the establishment of The-real-Constitution, used to be a slang and derogatory reference to Americans)? What catalyst or cause allows only certain cultures and countries to become FluFarms; whereby others, somehow, manage to keep both Pandemic and Pandemonium down to an murmur, instead of a roar?

Rather interesting additional aspect raised in your latest commentary... "Just yesterday it was announced that immunizing only 5% of the population would be more than enough to stop the spread of the swine flu." Imagine that, there might be certain "qualified" (?) experts... brave enough to "paddle against the onrushing stream" of Billions-of-Dollars-of-Profits... in order, I assume, to achieve an equally effective "herd immunity" as that, for which, the entire National Emergency Health Measures Act has been so propitiously orchestrated ("Erst gestern war bekannt geworden, das die Impfung von nur 5 % der Bevölkerung vollständig reichen würde, um die Schweinegrippe zu stoppen")?

Back to the chalkboard... why-Why-Why ???

359 new cases in two days

Within two days have been the Robert Koch Institute reported 359 new cases of swine flu. This has had a nationwide 14'940 people previously infected with the H1N1 virus. The majority of new cases is due to travel returnees. Only one in three lit in Germany.
http://www.thurgauerzeitung.ch/wissen/d ... y/13662135

Stockholm, Aug 27
On Wednesday 745 new cases of swine flu reported in the European countries.

Of the new cases, 615 were confirmed in Germany, 84 in Sweden, 25 in Switzerland and the remaining cases were reported in eight other European countries,


http://www.newkerala.com/nkfullnews-1-100083.html

Hallo MtnLife4u!
Nein, ich wohne nicht mehr in Deutschland. In England geboren, in Deutschland aufgewachsen, Eltern aus Ungarn ... und wohne jetzt mit meinem Eheman in New York State
Habe aber auch noch Familie in Deutschland, und da ich auch ganz gut uebersetzen kann, konzentriere ich mich halt auf Deutschland (und weil mir auch fuer mehr die Zeit fehlt).
Nett zu hoehren das Sie in Oberbayern gelebt haben. Ich komme aus Wiesbaden, Hessen.

Now to your questions about the so far non existing mortality rate in Germany.
I have been trying to find answers or speculations about this on the web but have come up empty so far.
There are many similarities of course between England and Germany. You mention blood lines.
Also, in both countries people love to travel during vacation in Europe and the rest of the world and there is also lots of travel between Germany and England.
Both English and Germans like to drink lots of beer and like to meet in pubs and go to beer and wine festivals (lots of social mingling).

Interestingly, Germany has the highest rate of obese people in Europe! But, at least so far that doesn't seem to be a problem.

Swine flu cases (as Germans keep insisting on calling it) have also been much milder in Germany than in England. It has not been a big problem so far.
Matter of fact, there are many news articles now stating that the flu immunization will be a big flop because the population in general sees no need for it.
I will post a couple of news articles on this in a moment. I will keep searching for answers though and keep you posted.