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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:15 am 
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5 that were eligible didn't receive the vaccine, so I presume they had underlying conditions. Underlying condtions, not know, as yet.

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http://www.u.tv/News/Expectant-mums-dia ... bd03043534

Expectant mums diagnosed with swine flu

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Three pregnant women in Northern Ireland have been diagnosed with swine flu the Public Health Agency has confirmed.

The PHA is urging pregnant women no matter what stage of pregnancy, to get their flu vaccine as soon as possible.

Dr Lorraine Doherty, Assistant Director of Public Health said: "While there are low circulating levels of flu amongst the general population, these three cases of H1N1 confirmed in pregnant women, tells us that pregnant women could be hard hit again with flu."

"Pregnant women are being offered the flu vaccine this year if they didn't get the swine flu vaccine last year, regardless of their stage of pregnancy.

"It is particularly important that they take up this offer because pregnant women are more likely to have serious illness if they catch flu, especially swine flu", she added.

Dr Doherty said last year saw a very good uptake rate amongst pregnant women, with up to 70% receiving the vaccine, but despite efforts to encourage uptake, over the summer the numbers getting the vaccine have significantly decreased.
"It is important to note that pregnant women who did not receive the swine flu vaccine in the summer will now be in the later stages of pregnancy, the time of greatest risk, Dr Doherty added.

"I want to stress that no matter what stage of pregnancy to get the flu vaccine now, it is better late than never.

"While swine flu is a mild illness for most people, it can be very serious.

"Complications include pneumonia and heart and lung problems and pregnant women are about 10 times more likely to become so ill they need to be admitted to hospital", Dr Doherty added.

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 Post subject: Re: UK
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Video: Swine flu deaths fits normal virus spread patterns

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/81990 ... terns.html

Prof. Hugh Pennington says recent deaths from swine flu fit into normal patterns of the virus, after news emerged that 10 adults in the UK had died of it in the past six weeks.


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CopitoSP wrote:
Video: Swine flu deaths fits normal virus spread patterns

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/81990 ... terns.html

Prof. Hugh Pennington says recent deaths from swine flu fit into normal patterns of the virus, after news emerged that 10 adults in the UK had died of it in the past six weeks.

Flu deaths in those under 65 is NOT a "normal" pattern.

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 Post subject: Re: UK
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http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/12December/ ... ccine.aspx

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.................What are the news reports based on?
There has been a notable rise in the number of people with severe flu who have been admitted to hospital recently. The Health Protection Agency has warned of this increase and advised that people in high-risk groups should be vaccinated.

Last week there were 16 people aged 18 to 35 in hospital with severe H1N1 influenza. Many of these people have an underlying health condition, and some are pregnant. Several other people with probable H1N1 are currently under investigation. Nine people have died from flu since early September, of whom eight had H1N1. Many of these people also had other underlying high-risk conditions.

Are more people getting flu than usual?
The numbers of people visiting their GP with flu-like illnesses are low, but there have been several outbreaks in the community and a number of severe cases. Nine acute respiratory disease outbreaks were reported in the UK at the beginning of September, eight in schools and one on a military base. Two of these nine outbreaks have been attributed to H1N1.................................continues

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 Post subject: Re: UK
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niman wrote:
CopitoSP wrote:
Video: Swine flu deaths fits normal virus spread patterns

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/81990 ... terns.html

Prof. Hugh Pennington says recent deaths from swine flu fit into normal patterns of the virus, after news emerged that 10 adults in the UK had died of it in the past six weeks.

Flu deaths in those under 65 is NOT a "normal" pattern.



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It is normal for the new seasonal H1N1 flu which is what we are talking about here.

And no one else picks this up except me. Spoonfed and loving it !!


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 Post subject: Re: UK
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I'm beginning to feel rather 'nervy' about the flu season this year..... :rolleyes: ....finished my antibiotics today, still got the cough but not as bad as I have been and my lungs don't ache as much.

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 Post subject: Re: UK
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http://www.hpa.org.uk/NewsCentre/Nation ... 101213flu/

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Antiviral drugs for seasonal flu approved as HPA urges at-risk groups to get vaccinated
13 December 2010

Following a recent increase in the level of seasonal influenza including H1N1 (2009) and influenza B circulating in the UK, the Department of Health has issued guidance on the use of antiviral drugs for the management of those influenza patients in England who are at higher risk of developing complications from flu.

Dr John Watson, a flu expert at the HPA, said: "Over the last few weeks we have seen a rise in the number of cases of flu in the community. We have also received reports of patients with serious illness requiring hospitalisation and outbreaks of flu in schools across the country.

"For most people, seasonal flu is not life threatening and usually lasts seven to ten days. However, it can be far more dangerous for those in at-risk groups, such as the elderly, pregnant women and patients with heart problems, diabetes or lung, liver or renal diseases, or those who have weak immune systems who are at risk of developing complications."

"Flu vaccination offers the best protection for those at high risk from seasonal influenza. If you are in an at risk group and you haven't had your jab, we recommend you make an appointment with your GP or medical practitioner now."
The flu H1N1 (2009) virus, formerly known as 'swine flu', is now one of the group of seasonal flu viruses circulating around the world. Following a pandemic, it is often the case that the pandemic strain becomes the most common seasonal strain of influenza the next flu season, so it in not surprising to see H1N1 (2009) circulating this winter.
This year's seasonal flu vaccine includes a H1N1 2009 component so that people who are vulnerable are protected against all the circulating strains. For the first time the seasonal vaccine is being offered to pregnant women as they were disproportionally affected by the H1N1 (2009) strain during the pandemic and are more at risk of serious complications.

Symptoms of seasonal flu include sudden onset of fever, cough as well as sore throat, aching muscles and joints. The best advice for treating flu in healthy people in the population is to rest, drink plenty of fluids and take pain relievers such as paracetamol.

Maintaining good cough and hand hygiene, such as covering your nose and mouth with a tissue when you cough and sneeze, disposing of the tissue as soon as possible and cleaning your hands as soon you can are important actions that can help prevent the spread of germs and reduce the risk of transmission.

Dr John Watson added: "Although unpleasant, flu is a self-limiting illness and if you have flu it is best to stay at home until well. If individuals in at risk groups develop symptoms consistent with flu or if anyone whose symptoms persist or become more severe then we advise they seek medical advice."

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Notes to Editors:

1. Antivirals are drugs given to high risk patients who become ill with seasonal influenza. They are most effective if taken within 48 hours of onset and may help limit the impact of some symptoms and reduce the potential for serious complications. They are also used in some situations where it is important to help prevent people from getting influenza. The NICE guidance applies only when the number of people with flu reaches a high-enough level and there is good evidence that flu is 'circulating in the community'.

2. The Department of Health has now advised GPs to consider prescribing antiviral drugs where necessary in line with guidance issued from the National Institute of Clinical Excellence (NICE). To see the current guidance please go to: www.nice.org.uk which has full guidance on the use of antivirals such as oseltamivir. It does not recommend antivirals for the prevention of flu in otherwise healthy people under 65, even if they have been in close contact with someone with a flu-like illness.

3. If you are suffering from flu you can get advice from NHS Direct on 0845 4647 or www.nhs.uk or visit your GP. For further information on flu go to: http://www.hpa.org.uk/Topics/Infectious ... Influenza/ .

4. Seasonal flu vaccine is recommended for those aged 65 or over and those with the following conditions, regardless of age: chronic respiratory disease, heart disease, renal disease and chronic liver disease, diabetes requiring insulin or oral hypoglycaemic drugs, immunosuppression. Vaccination is also recommended for pregnant women and those living in long-stay residential care homes or other long stay care facilities where rapid spread is likely to follow introduction of infection and cause high morbidity and mortality (this does not include prisons, young offenders' institutions, or university halls of residence). Vaccination is also recommended for carer's defined as those who are in receipt of a carer's allowance, or those who are the main carer for an elderly or disabled person whose welfare may be at risk if the carer falls ill. This should be given on an individual basis at the GP's discretion in the context of other clinical risk groups in their practice. In addition, it is recommended that immunisation be offered to all health care workers involved in the delivery of care and/or support to patients. Social service employers have also been asked to consider offering immunisation to all staff involved in the delivery of care and/or support to clients. The vaccine programme takes place between October - December but high risk individuals may still be able to obtain vaccine from their GP.
5. For media enquiries please contact the national HPA press office at Colindale on 020 8327 7098/6647/6690 or out of hours 020 8200 4400.

Last reviewed: 13 December 2010


They may re-open the National Pandemic Flu Service if things really take-off.

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 Post subject: Re: UK
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:50 pm 
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stephensons wrote:
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/12December/Pages/vulnerable-urged-to-take-swine-flu-vaccine.aspx

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.................What are the news reports based on?
There has been a notable rise in the number of people with severe flu who have been admitted to hospital recently. The Health Protection Agency has warned of this increase and advised that people in high-risk groups should be vaccinated.

Last week there were 16 people aged 18 to 35 in hospital with severe H1N1 influenza. Many of these people have an underlying health condition, and some are pregnant. Several other people with probable H1N1 are currently under investigation. Nine people have died from flu since early September, of whom eight had H1N1. Many of these people also had other underlying high-risk conditions.

Are more people getting flu than usual?
The numbers of people visiting their GP with flu-like illnesses are low, but there have been several outbreaks in the community and a number of severe cases. Nine acute respiratory disease outbreaks were reported in the UK at the beginning of September, eight in schools and one on a military base. Two of these nine outbreaks have been attributed to H1N1.................................continues

This is the standard "underlying conditions" hocus pocus. A high percentage of citizens in the UK (or anywhere else in the world) have the cited underlying conditions (pregnancy, asthma, diabetes, obesity, hypertension), yet the VAST majority of patients with these conditions do NOT get hospitalized or die from H1N1. Moreover, the patients with an increaed risk are concentrated in the more severe end of the spectrum of conditions, i.e. preganacy is a greater rish factor in the third trimester. However, when citing underlying conditions, the more severe end of the spectrum is not targeted (i.e. ALL preganant patients are said to have "underlying conditions").

It is more likely that these deaths are linked to D225G/N and or a robust immune system that was too agressive when poorly matched antibodies failed to clear the virus.

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 Post subject: Re: UK
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I know. :banghead:

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