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WHO trying to hit the sweet spot in responding to puzzling new flu virus

By: Helen Branswell, The Canadian Press

The virus has been isolated from pigs in the U.S. Midwest, says Dr. Nancy Cox, head of the CDC's influenza division, though she won't specify where.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-a ... 25253.html

The above response is curious because the identification of the virus is VERY straightford, and currently this is only one public sequence that matches, which is in New York. Claiming the "midwest" and ignoring the public isolate in New York raises serious questions about what the CDC is calling "the virus", which from a sequence point of view, is very straightforded and the New York sequnece is public and available to anyone with an internet connection who can click on a link.

The only public match was deposited at Genbank on Oct 27 and released on Nove 20. Collection was on Sept 13 and certainly NOT in the midwest

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/JN940422

LOCUS JN940422 1701 bp cRNA linear VRL 20-NOV-2011
DEFINITION Influenza A virus (A/swine/NY/A01104005/2011(H3N2)) segment 4
hemagglutinin (HA) gene, complete cds.
ACCESSION JN940422
VERSION JN940422.1 GI:357017757
KEYWORDS .
SOURCE Influenza A virus (A/swine/NY/A01104005/2011(H3N2))
ORGANISM Influenza A virus (A/swine/NY/A01104005/2011(H3N2))
Viruses; ssRNA negative-strand viruses; Orthomyxoviridae;
Influenzavirus A.
REFERENCE 1 (bases 1 to 1701)
CONSRTM USDA Swine Surveillance
TITLE Direct Submission
JOURNAL Submitted (27-OCT-2011) USDA, Ames, IA 50010, USA
COMMENT GenBank Accession Numbers JN940419-JN940426 represent sequences
from the 8 segments of Influenza A virus
(A/swine/NY/A01104005/2011(H3N2)).
FEATURES Location/Qualifiers
source 1..1701
/organism="Influenza A virus
(A/swine/NY/A01104005/2011(H3N2))"
/mol_type="viral cRNA"
/strain="A/swine/NY/A01104005/2011"
/serotype="H3N2"
/isolation_source="nasal swab"
/host="swine"
/db_xref="taxon:1107326"
/segment="4"
/country="USA: NY"
/collection_date="13-Sep-2011"
gene 1..1701
/gene="HA"
CDS 1..1701
/gene="HA"
/note="H1"
/codon_start=1
/product="hemagglutinin"
/protein_id="AET50910.1"
/db_xref="GI:357017758"

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:27 am 
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Diane Alter – AHN News Reporter

Atlanta, GA, United States (AHN) – Three cases of a new swine flu virus, which traces its origins to pigs but is spread person-to-person, has been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The new cases were seen in three Iowa children. They all had mild illnesses, according to the CDC.

The virus appears to be treatable with standard anti-viral drugs.

To date, the CDC has counted a total of 18 cases of this new virus, an influenza called S-OtrH3N2, in two years, That number suggests that the new strain is not spreading quickly or easily, and there is no reason to fear the beginnings of a new pandemic.

The 10 cases of the new strain, the H3N2, in 2011 have been peppered across the country. Cases have been reported in Pennsylvania, Maine, Indiana and Iowa.

Infectious disease experts note that flu viruses mutate and swap genes all the time, and that health officials may only be noticing these new virus because of better technology.

The H1N1 swine flu pandemic began in 2009 after flu viruses mutated to create a new strain that humans had never come in contact with before, leaving everyone at risk of infection. Although the H1N1 pandemic proved to be relatively mild despite worldwide fears, doctors worry about all new flu strains because history has shown just how lethal they can be. In 1918, a new flu strain killed more than 20 million people.

Late Wednesday night, the CDC said as part of “routine preparedness,” it has already produced a “candidate vaccine virus” that could be used to combat this new strain, and has passed it on to vaccine makers.

http://gantdaily.com/2011/11/25/cdc-con ... rus-cases/

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:10 am 
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niman wrote:
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niman wrote:
WHO trying to hit the sweet spot in responding to puzzling new flu virus

By: Helen Branswell, The Canadian Press

The virus has been isolated from pigs in the U.S. Midwest, says Dr. Nancy Cox, head of the CDC's influenza division, though she won't specify where.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-a ... 25253.html

The above response is curious because the identification of the virus is VERY straightford, and currently this is only one public sequence that matches, which is in New York. Claiming the "midwest" and ignoring the public isolate in New York raises serious questions about what the CDC is calling "the virus", which from a sequence point of view, is very straightforded and the New York sequnece is public and available to anyone with an internet connection who can click on a link.

The only public match was deposited at Genbank on Oct 27 and released on Nov 20. Collection was on Sept 13 and certainly NOT in the midwest

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/JN940422

In the Sept 2 MMWR, the CDC aknowledged that there were no cases at Genbank

Although reassortment between swine influenza and 2009 influenza A (H1N1) viruses has been reported in pigs in the United States (3), this particular genetic combination of swine influenza virus segments is unique and has not been reported previously in either swine or humans, based on a review of influenza genomic sequences publicly available in GenBank.†
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtm ... mm6035a6_w

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:08 am 
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WHO trying to hit the sweet spot in responding to puzzling new flu virus

By: Helen Branswell, The Canadian Press


The WHO wants to be ready to make recommendations and issue guidance to countries if the need arises — though Fukuda stressed at this point it is far from certain there will be that need.

"We're very aware that we don't want to over-play or under-play. We're trying to get that right," says Fukuda, a leading influenza expert.

"(We're) trying to make sure that we're ready to move quickly, if we have to move quickly, but also trying not to raise alarm bells."

The desire to be prepared without raising alarm is a legacy of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. The WHO was heavily criticized in Europe for declaring that event a pandemic when the outbreak turned out to be far milder than originally feared.

But what exactly the agency — and the world — might need to prepare for now is very unclear. With the public relations problems of the 2009 outbreak fresh in the minds of health officials, no one is using the "p" word these days.

Yet in some respects the parallels to 2009 are striking.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-a ... 25253.html

WHO is clearing starting to prepare for a pandemic, which is clearly indicated by the Iowa cluster (and 7 prior cases), no "swine exposure" required.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:31 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:34 am 
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niman wrote:
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WHO trying to hit the sweet spot in responding to puzzling new flu virus

By: Helen Branswell, The Canadian Press


The WHO wants to be ready to make recommendations and issue guidance to countries if the need arises — though Fukuda stressed at this point it is far from certain there will be that need.

"We're very aware that we don't want to over-play or under-play. We're trying to get that right," says Fukuda, a leading influenza expert.

"(We're) trying to make sure that we're ready to move quickly, if we have to move quickly, but also trying not to raise alarm bells."

The desire to be prepared without raising alarm is a legacy of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. The WHO was heavily criticized in Europe for declaring that event a pandemic when the outbreak turned out to be far milder than originally feared.

But what exactly the agency — and the world — might need to prepare for now is very unclear. With the public relations problems of the 2009 outbreak fresh in the minds of health officials, no one is using the "p" word these days.

Yet in some respects the parallels to 2009 are striking.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-a ... 25253.html

WHO is clearing starting to prepare for a pandemic, which is clearly indicated by the Iowa cluster (and 7 prior cases), no "swine exposure" required.

The latest evidence for preparation for a trH3N2 pandemic is also exactly one year after the WHO pager alert

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11101 ... PA_IL.html

H3N2 Triple Reassortants in Pennsylvania and Illinois Patients
Recombinomics Commentary 21:40
November 10, 2010


"We have received disturbing information on the WHO alert system that the U.S. two people the virus H3N2: a seven-month child in Illinois and 46-year-old man in Pennsylvania, "- told Interfax Rospotrebnadzor head Gennady Onishchenko.

The above translation describes the detection of two novel H3N2 triple reassortants. Friday’s MMWR indicates one novel H3N2 from Pennsylvania was reported in week 44.....

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:41 am 
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niman wrote:
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niman wrote:
WHO trying to hit the sweet spot in responding to puzzling new flu virus

By: Helen Branswell, The Canadian Press


The WHO wants to be ready to make recommendations and issue guidance to countries if the need arises — though Fukuda stressed at this point it is far from certain there will be that need.

"We're very aware that we don't want to over-play or under-play. We're trying to get that right," says Fukuda, a leading influenza expert.

"(We're) trying to make sure that we're ready to move quickly, if we have to move quickly, but also trying not to raise alarm bells."

The desire to be prepared without raising alarm is a legacy of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. The WHO was heavily criticized in Europe for declaring that event a pandemic when the outbreak turned out to be far milder than originally feared.

But what exactly the agency — and the world — might need to prepare for now is very unclear. With the public relations problems of the 2009 outbreak fresh in the minds of health officials, no one is using the "p" word these days.

Yet in some respects the parallels to 2009 are striking.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-a ... 25253.html

WHO is clearing starting to prepare for a pandemic, which is clearly indicated by the Iowa cluster (and 7 prior cases), no "swine exposure" required.

The latest evidence for preparation for a trH3N2 pandemic is also exactly one year after the WHO pager alert

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11101 ... PA_IL.html

H3N2 Triple Reassortants in Pennsylvania and Illinois Patients
Recombinomics Commentary 21:40
November 10, 2010


"We have received disturbing information on the WHO alert system that the U.S. two people the virus H3N2: a seven-month child in Illinois and 46-year-old man in Pennsylvania, "- told Interfax Rospotrebnadzor head Gennady Onishchenko.

The above translation describes the detection of two novel H3N2 triple reassortants. Friday’s MMWR indicates one novel H3N2 from Pennsylvania was reported in week 44.....

Isolate name: A/Pennsylvania/14/2010
Isolate ID: EPI_ISL_83276
Passage details/history: Original
Type: A / H3N2
Lineage:
Sample information
Collection date: 2010-10-26
Host Human
Additional host information:
Zip code:
Patient status:
Last vaccinated:
In-vivo pathogenicity test:
Location: United States / Pennsylvania
Additional location information: USA
Patient age: 45 Year(s)
Gender: Male

Isolate name: A/Wisconsin/12/2010
Isolate ID: EPI_ISL_83281
Passage details/history: M1
Type: A / H3N2
Lineage:
Sample information
Collection date: 2010-11-02
Host Human
Additional host information:
Zip code:
Patient status:
Last vaccinated:
In-vivo pathogenicity test:
Location: United States / Wisconsin
Additional location information: USA
Patient age: 10 Month(s)
Gender: Male
Outbreak:
Treatment:

Isolate name: A/Pennsylvania/40/2010
Isolate ID: EPI_ISL_88934
Passage details/history: original
Type: A / H3N2
Lineage:
Sample information
Collection date: 2010-09-13
Host Human
Additional host information:
Zip code:
Patient status:
Last vaccinated:
In-vivo pathogenicity test:
Location: United States / Pennsylvania
Additional location information:
Patient age: 3 Year(s)
Gender: Female
Outbreak:

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Updated: Sat Nov. 26 2011 10:06:59 AM

The Canadian Press

The spread of an odd new flu virus that has been jumping from pigs to people in parts of the United States has the World Health Organization gearing up its response planning, a senior official of the agency says.

The UN health body is figuring out what needs to be done if the virus continues to spread and a global response is required, Dr. Keiji Fukuda, assistant director-general for health security and environment said in an interview from Geneva.

The WHO wants to be ready to make recommendations and issue guidance to countries if the need arises -- though Fukuda stressed at this point it is far from certain there will be that need.

"We're very aware that we don't want to over-play or under-play. We're trying to get that right," says Fukuda, a leading influenza expert.

"(We're) trying to make sure that we're ready to move quickly, if we have to move quickly, but also trying not to raise alarm bells."

The desire to be prepared without raising alarm is a legacy of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. The WHO was heavily criticized in Europe for declaring that event a pandemic when the outbreak turned out to be far milder than originally feared.

But what exactly the agency -- and the world -- might need to prepare for now is very unclear. With the public relations problems of the 2009 outbreak fresh in the minds of health officials, no one is using the "p" word these days.

Yet in some respects the parallels to 2009 are striking.

A new swine-origin flu virus is causing sporadic infections in parts of the United States. Since the new virus was first spotted in July, 10 cases have been confirmed in Maine, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Iowa. All have been children under 10, with a lone exception -- a 58-year-old adult. Three of the cases have required hospitalization but most of the infections have been mild, like regular flu.

It is an influenza A virus of the H3N2 subtype, a distant cousin of H3N2 viruses that circulate in humans.

Scientists at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control say the hemagglutinin gene, the H3, looks like that of H3N2 viruses that used to circulate in people in the early 1990s.

It is sufficiently different from contemporary human viruses that the H3N2 component of the seasonal flu shot is not expected to protect against this virus, though it might boost antibody levels in those who were exposed to the earlier H3N2 viruses.

The CDC is still doing serological work -- checking stored blood samples for antibodies that react to this virus -- to try to figure out how much vulnerability there is to the new virus. The current thinking is most people over the age of 21 or so would have had exposure to similar flu viruses and would therefore have some protection against it.

Teenagers and children might not, though even that's not 100 per cent certain. Flu expert Malik Peiris, chair of the department of microbiology at the University of Hong Kong, says he thinks exposure to contemporary H3N2 viruses might provide some protection against these swine viruses.

"It is important to see the serological data to see how much vulnerability or susceptibility there is in the human population," Peiris says.

Dr. Arnold Monto, a flu expert at the University of Michigan, says if a major part of the human population has antibodies that react to the virus, it may not be much of a threat.

"If there's a lot of immunity in the population, there probably will not be any kind of extensive spread except maybe in these little clusters where you have little folks who don't have much immunity to anything," he says.

Fukuda, on the other hand, says further spread cannot be ruled out: "I think that certainly there's no reason why this virus, if it continues to spread human to human couldn't move from country to country among young people."

The first seven infections appeared to have been instances where the virus passed from pigs to people. But the most recent cases, in Iowa, seem pretty clearly to have involved person-to-person spread.

There were three confirmed cases in that cluster, but it was likely larger. Two contacts of the first confirmed case were also ill, but were not tested. And the people in this cluster seemingly had no contact with pigs, suggesting they caught the virus from an unidentified person.

The virus was previously isolated from pigs in the U.S. Midwest, says Dr. Nancy Cox, head of the CDC's influenza division, though she won't specify where.

Canadian authorities say there are no reports of the virus in this country. And the WHO knows of no cases other than those in the United States, Fukuda says.

To some in the flu world, the situation is reminiscent of 1977. That year an H1N1 virus started circling the globe, causing infections mainly in young people. H1N1 viruses hadn't been spotted for 20 years at that point; it is widely believed the virus was accidentally released from a laboratory.

On some lists of pandemics, the 1977 outbreak is named. Most flu experts, though, do not consider it a pandemic. Some, like Monto, refer to it as a pseudo pandemic.

While the flu world doesn't want to over-react to this virus, it doesn't feel safe ignoring it either.

The CDC asked the laboratory that makes seed strains for vaccine companies to produce a vaccine candidate virus for this H3N2. It is already in the hands of manufacturers.

And the WHO is looking at what it needs to do to be ready. One of the tasks it is currently working on is trying to figure out what to call this virus, if it should continue to spread.

Naming the pandemic virus was a nightmare for public health officials in the start of the 2009 outbreak.

Flu experts accustomed to talking about viruses based on the animals they normally infected -- bird flu, swine flu, dog flu, human flu -- were caught in a political vise when powerful agricultural interests objected to references to the virus's swine origins.

But calling the virus simply H1N1 didn't differentiate it from the human H1N1 that was circulating before the pandemic. (It has since disappeared.) Recently the pandemic virus was officially named H1N1 pdm09.

This swine-origin H3N2 virus poses the same naming challenges.

And this time, the WHO wants to be prepared. Fukuda says the WHO has been in discussion with its animal health counterparts, the UN Food and Agriculture Agency and the OIE, the World Organization for Animal Health, to work out a possible name.

"We're pretty aware that we don't want to increase stigma, we're pretty aware that it is always possible for people to get afraid of food or to enact trade embargoes or things like that. So to the extent that naming the virus in a way which minimizes those things can be done, we think it's better," he says.

"It's just one of those lessons that we've learned. Take a look at those things early. So that's what we're doing."

Still, it's all being done with the realization that there may be no need for heightened public health responses, apart from the increased surveillance the U.S. has mounted.

"This is one of the things that we've discussed," Fukuda says.

"This could be the only cluster we see," he says, referring to the Iowa cases. "We could see some sort of stuttering picture for a long time. Or we could see things jump. All of those things are possible."
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Colin Hanshaw
Let's thank all those Black Friday bargain shoppers for bringing the virus back to Canada at a great discounted rate.



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jons
here we go again , spreading the fear of God its just a flu



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chris/manitoba
WHO gearing up for another donation from the big pharmaceutical companies !!



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blowhole
@jons: I think you're overreacting just a tad. I found the article to be informative, as opposed to sensationalist. They are quite clear that at this point a lot of investigation is being done and that it is too early to know if this is anything to worry about or not. By being informed, both the medical profession and the general public will be more aware and reporting more accurate, so that if it turns out it IS something to be concerned about, we'll be ready that much sooner. Recent scares may invoke a "boy who cried wolf" attitude, but the reality is, there are on rare occasions strains that are true killers. Better safe than sorry.



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Tim
Glad to see the WHO is finally realizing that ringing all the alarms and panic'ing everyone is counter-productive. Find out if it's an actual threat before you go into full "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE" mode.



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whocares
They lost all credibility with h1n1, convincing the whole country to get a shot against a flu that kills 0.001 (approx) of what the regular flu kills every year. WHO CARES!!



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mike
"Just flu". Like "Spanish" influenza perhaps? Most likely not, but let's not be complacent about a type of virus known to kill humans. If it's a swine flu, why not call it a swine flu? Do football fans (pigskin), steel workers (pig iron), or pipeline workers (inspection pig) shy away from pork?



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B,J,
WHO made me very skeptical with the H1N1 fiasco. Doesnt seem they have their facts together before alarming the public. Just lining the pockets of the drug companies, nothing else. I take my chances no shot for me.



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coffee maker
The fear factor in motion once again.
Just wait and we will see it rise like warm water till it boils the same story over and aver again .
An old tactic from those control freaks of the NWO. OH yeah they allways count on the uninformed sheeple to line up to get the vets inject them with manufactured poisons to keep em submisive and unprotesting .


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:20 pm 
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There were three confirmed cases in that cluster, but it was likely larger. Two contacts of the first confirmed case were also ill, but were not tested. And the people in this cluster seemingly had no contact with pigs, suggesting they caught the virus from an unidentified person.

The virus was previously isolated from pigs in the U.S. Midwest, says Dr. Nancy Cox, head of the CDC's influenza division, though she won't specify where.

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/C ... OttawaHome

The above updated version has added the word "previously" to the Nancy Cox quote, which dramatically changes the meaning. Previously chnages the comment from the 2011 novel trH3N2 with H1N1 pdm09, to the initial trH3N2 cases in Kansas, Iowa, and Minnesota (i.e. the US Midwest).

Thus, the CDC comment is not as curious as the mis-quote was.

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