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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:16 am 
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Recombinomics commentary and CDC data presented on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQN8fpvPQyI

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
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Commentary

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/04241 ... Fatal.html

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:07 am 
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niman wrote:
Recombinomics commentary and CDC data presented on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQN8fpvPQyI

Interesting comments at above site, including claim that H1N1 doesn't exist (or is lab derived).

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
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Another youtube report with comments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XsQDcipyDk

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:02 am 
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could it be because of the vaccination offered at that hospital ?
(week 14 ?)
(CAAPS Aguilas,Juarez,Zaragoza Street - translated as Eagle,Saragossa..)
People claim to have ILI so to get the vax
Or increaed publicity because of the vaccination campaign -->
people with ILI think it's a good place to check in for ILI

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:20 am 
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gsgs wrote:
could it be because of the vaccination offered at that hospital ?
(week 14 ?)
(CAAPS Aguilas,Juarez,Zaragoza Street - translated as Eagle,Saragossa..)
People claim to have ILI so to get the vax
Or increaed publicity because of the vaccination campaign -->
people with ILI think it's a good place to check in for ILI

No. ILI patients have ILI. The P&I deaths are people with DEATH certificates on file.

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:23 am 
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CAAPS Anapra is also in Juarez (1.3M inhabitants)
Centro Salud "B",Juarez
CAAPS Aguilas de Zaragoza,Juarez
CSHS, Nuevo Casas Grandes
CSHS,Ojinaga

http://www.dgepi.salud.gob.mx/binaciona ... VITIES.pdf

but the other hospitals in Juarez have no such increase


they also have bacterial surveillance, maybe pneumonia data is available ?

Group A streptococcal invasice infections
Group B streptococcal invasive infections
streptococcus pneumoniae invasive infections

well, apparantly that's ony for New Mexico (which belongs to USA)

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:36 am 
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this is from April,5 (week 14 was from April,2 to April,9)
Authorities of Health presented the presence five new confirmed cases of patients infected with influenza human, as well as that nine of the 22 patients with the disease which they were registered already at the beginning of the sprout again of virus AH1N1 were registered. Héctor Doors Corners, spokesman of the Committee of Monitoring Epidemiológica created before the contingency, said that these nine people already returned to their labor activities without risk some of contagion. It indicated that from the 20 of March and to yesterday (April,5) 105 thousand vaccines had been applied, that added the 140 thousand people who immunized themselves in February during the First National Week of Health, gives a total of vaccinated 245 thousands. Doors mentioned that until yesterday they were had registered 82 patients in analysis, and in 22 of them already the presence of virus AH1N1 has been confirmed; 24 have been negative in the examinations that have been realised; one was rejected to be an insufficient sample for the analysis and 35 follow in valuation process. It indicated that it enters the infected patients are two infants among five and 14 years, other 5 young people among 15 and 24 years of age, nine among 25 and 44 years, five with ages among the 45 and 65 years, and one more major of 65 years. Of these 22 infected people, 10 are men and 12 women, and according to official information, the mortal balance by the disease ascended to four in this border. It said that in the 23 centers of health that integrate Sanitary Jurisdiction II they both apply vaccines in turns of Monday through Friday, and that during the weekend six units work in accumulated day in the morning and behind schedule. Additionally the 16 familiar medicine units and the three hospitals of the Mexican Institute of the Social Insurance, as well as the clinic and nosocomio of the ISSSTE are receiving the people who are wanted to vaccinate, indicated. It commented that when arises suspicious cases they send to the Center Advanced of Primary Attention to Salud (CAAPS) of Anapra and to the one of Eagles of Saragossa, as well as to the Center of Bellavista Health so that a confirming test of influenza is taken them. It assured that the Social Insurance has other three units of monitoring epidemiologists located in hospitals 6, 35 and 66. Doors Corners said that to the 22 patients who have detected it has initiated them a treatment with Ocentalmivir of 75 milligrams twice to the day during five days. It mentioned that to the patients an ambulatory monitoring is had to them, and if they arrive in time has majors possibilities of presenting/displaying a total improvement of its health. Once fulfilled with the treatment, if one occurs of uninterrupted way to the five days no longer is going to exist no symptom of the disease. It indicated that in revision in its homes they had 14 patients, while five were hospitalized. These, it assured, nine either they fulfilled its period of convalecencia and or were registered, reason why or they were gotten up to its daily activities. Felipe Fornelli Lafón, undersecretary of Health, said that influenza human of not being taken care of can finish with the life of a person with a pneumonia. In order to maintain to the moved away students of the virus of influenza human, educative authorities initiated yesterday the official sanitizante gel delivery in schools of basic education. Javier González Mocken, undersecretary of Education, Culture and Sport, was sorry that the sanitizante material is not arriving at this border with the necessary speed, nevertheless, in agreement arrives the antiseptic material, distributes itself immediately in the juarenses schools. He said that until yesterday 150 boxes with material had arrived, but still it requires itself of more equipment to equip with gel and antibacterial soap to more than 300 thousand students of pre-school, primary and secondary. He emphasized that he has been received material for benefit of the 25 to the 30 percent of the scholastic community. The unique objective is to avoid contagions of the virus of the Human Influenza To H1N1, for that reason they distribute of gratuitous way garrafones with gel that will be distributed the educational ones, besides individual envelopes for the estudiantado one. It commented that the Secretariat of Health sent the first 70 boxes with material so that is distributed between the state and federal establishments. The delivery ceremony carried out east Tuesday in the facilities of Secondary State the 8392, located in Adolph Lopez Mateos and Old Camino to San jOse. The director of the establishment, Juan Beltrán Angel, nevertheless commented that since the sprout again of influenza was registered they take the measures necessary to avoid contagions, the gel that they obtained free will be helpful for protecting the scholastic community during which he remains of the present school year. It commented that all the facilities stay cleanings with a water mixture with chlorine. It showed that it is necessary that the health authorities send a campaign of vaccination to the interior of that school, because the certainty that is only had the administrative and educational personnel has been applied the vaccine against influenza. In that secondary one to three boxes with thousand 350 individual antibacterial gel envelopes and four gallons of the same product yesterday were given.
http://www.diario.com.mx/notas.php?f=20 ... c649af0f3f

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:51 am 
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gsgs wrote:
CAAPS Anapra is also in Juarez (1.3M inhabitants)
Centro Salud "B",Juarez
CAAPS Aguilas de Zaragoza,Juarez
CSHS, Nuevo Casas Grandes
CSHS,Ojinaga

http://www.dgepi.salud.gob.mx/binaciona ... VITIES.pdf

but the other hospitals in Juarez have no such increase


they also have bacterial surveillance, maybe pneumonia data is available ?

Group A streptococcal invasice infections
Group B streptococcal invasive infections
streptococcus pneumoniae invasive infections

well, apparantly that's ony for New Mexico (which belongs to USA)

H1N1 takes time to spread. ILI refers to flu-like SYMPTOMS, including a fever of 100 F or higher.

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 Post subject: Re: El Paso deaths
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:55 am 
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gsgs wrote:
could it be because of the vaccination offered at that hospital ?
(week 14 ?)
(CAAPS Aguilas,Juarez,Zaragoza Street - translated as Eagle,Saragossa..)
People claim to have ILI so to get the vax
Or increaed publicity because of the vaccination campaign -->
people with ILI think it's a good place to check in for ILI

The above location is in southeastern Jaurez. The Traffic Station with the fatal cluster was in eastern Juarez.

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