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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:09 pm 
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I thought that was odd myself and I responded pointing out that there have been six cases and three deaths in the transit office, at least one other case claimed to have gotten sick while in TX, and that there has been a high number of pediatric deaths in TX, with four attributed to pH1N1 (if you count the Texas boy who died in Shreveport, LA), two to H3N2, and five unsubtyped A. Having nearly half the pediatric influenza A deaths unsubtyped should raise a red flag in itself. I think they need to take this a lot more seriously.

Perhaps 2009-10 was more like 1916 than 1917. If you just look at the number of fatalities, last year seemed like an average year. Back in 1915 and 1916, I doubt they would have noticed that the demographics of the deaths being unusual, especially given that the world was preoccupied with the Great War.

Perhaps this will be our equivalent to the first "mild" wave in the spring of 1917. If a serious virulent evolved strain breaks out, we're probably less prepared than we were in 2009.
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The other boards are getting bizzare by trying to added dengue into the equation, which is shades of 1918 (H1N1 infections were called dengue back then also).

The current wave is a serious H1N1 (which knows how to evolve) problem, no handwaving hocus pocus required.

Yes, I think influenza A unsubtyped deaths are a MAJOR red flag, and the CDC continues to hold sequences (in US and Mexico).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:33 am 
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Jim wrote:
I thought that was odd myself and I responded pointing out that there have been six cases and three deaths in the transit office, at least one other case claimed to have gotten sick while in TX, and that there has been a high number of pediatric deaths in TX, with four attributed to pH1N1 (if you count the Texas boy who died in Shreveport, LA), two to H3N2, and five unsubtyped A. Having nearly half the pediatric influenza A deaths unsubtyped should raise a red flag in itself. I think they need to take this a lot more seriously.

Perhaps 2009-10 was more like 1916 than 1917. If you just look at the number of fatalities, last year seemed like an average year. Back in 1915 and 1916, I doubt they would have noticed that the demographics of the deaths being unusual, especially given that the world was preoccupied with the Great War.

Perhaps this will be our equivalent to the first "mild" wave in the spring of 1917. If a serious virulent evolved strain breaks out, we're probably less prepared than we were in 2009.
niman wrote:
The other boards are getting bizzare by trying to added dengue into the equation, which is shades of 1918 (H1N1 infections were called dengue back then also).

The current wave is a serious H1N1 (which knows how to evolve) problem, no handwaving hocus pocus required.

Yes, I think influenza A unsubtyped deaths are a MAJOR red flag, and the CDC continues to hold sequences (in US and Mexico).

As far as taking this more seriously is concerned, I suspect the influenza A, usubtyped require additional testing, which would lead to new sequences and a requirement for a vaccine, which they don't want to announce until they are sure that this new sub-clade will dominate. That data is now coming in from Mexico and Venezuela, where there are few other serotypes to compete, so now they are getting more serious, but still holding the sequences.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:11 am 
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Sequences from 36M, 29M, 47F from Chihuahua have been released

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:06 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:57 pm 
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More nonsense on other boards about the large number of cases not lab confirmed. Just internet babble by those who have NO clue.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:21 pm 
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