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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:58 pm 
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niman wrote:
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The situation is well beyond antivirals.


Time for 1918-like social distancing measures? That will go down well in this modern age....

UK is clearly in a critical state, complete with agency head patters.


But will the rest of the northern hemisphere cope much better over the next two months if swine flu v 2.0 takes off there too?


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Dingo wrote:
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Time for 1918-like social distancing measures? That will go down well in this modern age....

UK is clearly in a critical state, complete with agency head patters.


But will the rest of the northern hemisphere cope much better over the next two months if swine flu v 2.0 takes off there too?

Europe is next because H1N1 is dominant and will quickly spread there also.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:09 pm 
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The situation is well beyond antivirals.

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Totally disagree Niman. Antivirals right now are saving lives and could save many many more.

Death makes for a better headline and NO.1 than a life saved headline !!!

You said just the other day how effective antivirals were in saving lives.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:11 pm 
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niman wrote:
Europe is next because H1N1 is dominant and will quickly spread there also.


The US health system is not exactly well regarded internationally - how will your lot cope?


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The situation is well beyond antivirals.

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Totally disagree Niman. Antivirals right now are saving lives and could save many many more.

Death makes for a better headline and NO.1 than a life saved headline !!!

You said just the other day how effective antivirals were in saving lives.

The UK already has a shortage of antivirals and Tamiflu resistance has already begun to accelerate.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:15 pm 
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Dingo wrote:
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Europe is next because H1N1 is dominant and will quickly spread there also.


The US health system is not exactly well regarded internationally - how will your lot cope?

So far H1N1 in the US is only in about 10% of influenza A and 5% of all flu cases. US is being buffered by H3N2.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:17 pm 
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niman wrote:
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Europe is next because H1N1 is dominant and will quickly spread there also.


The US health system is not exactly well regarded internationally - how will your lot cope?

So far H1N1 in the US is only in about 10% of influenza A and 5% of all flu cases. US is being buffered by H3N2.


What if you end up with both?


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The Government came under fresh pressure last night to offer flu jabs to all under-fives amid concern that the return to nurseries and schools this week will accelerate the spread of the virus.

Ministers have rejected pleas to give the jab to all under-fives, despite the increasing numbers of young people contracting the virus.

Four children under the age of five have died of flu since October. There are also 42 under-five patients in critical care. Unlike other flu strains, swine flu is most virulent in younger age groups.

All under-fives were offered immunisation against swine flu last winter, but the Government’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation has said it did not believe healthy children under five should receive the vaccine this flu season.

But Labour’s Shadow Health Secretary John Healey said the Government may have to think again. ‘GPs and hospital intensive-care beds are fully stretched. There must be a concern that with people going back to work and children going back to schools and nurseries, we may see a further rise in numbers,’ he said.

The criticism follows the Government’s embarrassing U-turn on the ‘catch it, bin it, kill it’ campaign, which was hurriedly relaunched yesterday in an attempt to cut the number of flu cases.

As experts warned the start of term may cause a sharp rise in numbers, concerned parents are considering keeping children at home for up to two weeks while they wait for the flu outbreak – the worst for over a decade – to subside.

One mother wrote on internet forum Mumsnet: ‘If the flu gets a lot worse than it is now, keeping some kids off is something that could make a lot of sense.’

Another agreed, saying: ‘It may be a 14-day curfew is better because isolation may be the key to reducing mass infections.’ However, the Department of Health said the NHS can cope and urged children to return to schools and nurseries.

Official figures reveal 39 people have died of flu since October. They include Martin Clorley, 37.

The government hurriedly relaunched it's 'catch it, bin it, kill it' campaign yesterday
The apparently healthy father of two had married his long-term partner just ten days before his death on Boxing Day.

The H1N1 swine flu strain accounts for 36 of the deaths. Three were caused by flu type B.
The vaccine currently in use by the NHS offers protection against both strains and also H3N2 flu.

The number of cases of those in critical care with confirmed or suspected flu has risen sharply from 460 before Christmas to 738.
Among them is pregnant mother-of-four Gemma Escott, 27, of Evercreech, Somerset.

She was taken to hospital with breathing difficulties by husband Martyn on Christmas Day and put on a life-support machine after her kidneys began to fail.

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The government hurriedly relaunched it's 'catch it, bin it, kill it' campaign yesterday


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z19pfc1Tjc

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:20 pm 
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Dingo wrote:
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The US health system is not exactly well regarded internationally - how will your lot cope?

So far H1N1 in the US is only in about 10% of influenza A and 5% of all flu cases. US is being buffered by H3N2.


What if you end up with both?

There tends to be crowding out. Last season H1N1 crowded out H3N2. This season H3N2 got a jump and is crowding out H1N1.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:24 pm 
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niman wrote:
There tends to be crowding out. Last season H1N1 crowded out H3N2. This season H3N2 got a jump and is crowding out H1N1.


OK so early start H3N2 could save the USA from nasty UK v2.0 swine flu?

What do the recent US sequences say about the spread of nasty UK v2.0 swine flu? Is it there at all?


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