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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:36 pm 
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http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11151 ... Huron.html

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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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The A/Kansas/13/2009 internal genes match the sequences from the outbreak at the Huron county fair involving 2 dozen ILI-attendees and two confirmed infections A/Ohio/01/2007 and A/Ohio/02/2007.

This is a MAJOR smoking gun for the trH3N2 cases.

The sequences above are from patient #4 and #5 in NEJM report on triple reassortants

http://www.nejm.org/action/showImage?do ... 12&iid=t01

Out of the 11 patients, these were the only example of two patients from the same outbreak.

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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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niman wrote:
niman wrote:
The A/Kansas/13/2009 internal genes match the sequences from the outbreak at the Huron county fair involving 2 dozen ILI-attendees and two confirmed infections A/Ohio/01/2007 and A/Ohio/02/2007.

This is a MAJOR smoking gun for the trH3N2 cases.

The sequences above are from patient #4 and #5 in NEJM report on triple reassortants

http://www.nejm.org/action/showImage?do ... 12&iid=t01

Out of the 11 patients, these were the only example of two patients from the same outbreak.

An H1N1 influenza A virus, A/swine/Ohio/24366/07, was isolated from pigs in an Ohio
county fair. Twenty-six people who came in contact with the infected pigs developed
respiratory disease and two of these people were laboratory confirmed as H1N1 by the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The A/swine/Ohio/24366/07 virus we
isolated from swine was shown at the CDC to have 100% identical genome sequence to the human virus associated with the county fair.

http://download.thelancet.com/flatconte ... ogy-49.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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Dr Niman, what's the go with D225G and Tamiflu resistance in both the current H3N2 and this new Frankenstein swine mix one?


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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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Dr Niman, what's the go with D225G and Tamiflu resistance in both the current H3N2 and this new Frankenstein swine mix one?

Tamiflu resistance in H3N2 will not be a problem because it has N2 (although the three isolates from the farm workers in Sasketchewan in 2009 were infected with an H1N1 triple reassortant with H1 and N1 from Brisbane/59-like H1N1, which have H274Y).

However, Kansas/13 does have D225G.

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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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niman wrote:
Dingo wrote:
Dr Niman, what's the go with D225G and Tamiflu resistance in both the current H3N2 and this new Frankenstein swine mix one?

Tamiflu resistance in H3N2 will not be a problem because it has N2 (although the three isolates from the farm workers in Sasketchewan in 2009 were infected with an H1N1 triple reassortant with H1 and N1 from Brisbane/59-like H1N1, which have H274Y).

However, Kansas/13 does have D225G.


So "under the bonne"t this new trH3N2 could acquire some nasty pH1N1 D225 mutations?


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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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Dingo wrote:
niman wrote:
Dingo wrote:
Dr Niman, what's the go with D225G and Tamiflu resistance in both the current H3N2 and this new Frankenstein swine mix one?

Tamiflu resistance in H3N2 will not be a problem because it has N2 (although the three isolates from the farm workers in Sasketchewan in 2009 were infected with an H1N1 triple reassortant with H1 and N1 from Brisbane/59-like H1N1, which have H274Y).

However, Kansas/13 does have D225G.


So "under the bonne"t this new trH3N2 could acquire some nasty pH1N1 D225 mutations?

It already has D225G, so no acquisitions are necessary.

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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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The NP gene has an origin that differs from the other internal genes (which are from Huron fair). Thus, the virus has H3 and N2 from one source, NP from another, and the remaining five from the Huron fair.

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 Post subject: Re: Swine H3N2 Pandemic
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The NP gene has an origin that differs from the other internal genes (which are from Huron fair). Thus, the virus has H3 and N2 from one source, NP from another, and the remaining five from the Huron fair.

The NP gene is closely related to A/swine/NC/2023/2008 followed by A/swine/MN/SG-00239/2007, A/swine/MN/02011/2008. A/swine/MO/02060/2008 A/swine/NE/02013/2008 (these are H1N1 and H1N2). It is NOT close to the Huron fair-like sequences.

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