Rhiza Labs FluTracker Forum

The place to discuss the flu
It is currently Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:56 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:03 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:22 pm
Posts: 5184
Location: East of London
Thank-you, Dr. Niman for all your commentaries and answers to where this mutation may be heading :hello:. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

_________________
Praemonitus, Praemunitus..Forewarned is Forearmed.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:42 pm
Posts: 1533
Location: Northern California
We are no where near 1918. The worst and most fatal wave was in Autumn 1918.
I just find that this whole forum is mostly about 225G. There is very little mention if any, anywhere else.
Flutrends is showing Ukraine at a very low flu rate, all the news in Ukraine in political and nothing else.
We all know that the 225G is around but since there is nothing else really to speculate on then I guess we speculate on the coming of human destruction.
Now if we want to speculate on that then we should look at Haiti that really has a problem.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:17 am
Posts: 140
ms -- the sky is falling. The CFR of this D225G monster is 1.0 and all of the people in Ukraine will be cadavers soon.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:42 am
Posts: 56044
Location: Pittsburgh, PA USA
ms4920 wrote:
We are no where near 1918. The worst and most fatal wave was in Autumn 1918.
I just find that this whole forum is mostly about 225G. There is very little mention if any, anywhere else.
Flutrends is showing Ukraine at a very low flu rate, all the news in Ukraine in political and nothing else.
We all know that the 225G is around but since there is nothing else really to speculate on then I guess we speculate on the coming of human destruction.
Now if we want to speculate on that then we should look at Haiti that really has a problem.

WHO put out a D225G paper on Dec 28 and another on Friday. CDC just released sequences from the Duke Medical Center death cluster, which had H274Y coupled with D225G and D225N (in DEAD patients infected by transmitting H274Y and D225G/N).

_________________
www.twitter.com/hniman


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:42 pm
Posts: 1533
Location: Northern California
niman wrote:
ms4920 wrote:
We are no where near 1918. The worst and most fatal wave was in Autumn 1918.
I just find that this whole forum is mostly about 225G. There is very little mention if any, anywhere else.
Flutrends is showing Ukraine at a very low flu rate, all the news in Ukraine in political and nothing else.
We all know that the 225G is around but since there is nothing else really to speculate on then I guess we speculate on the coming of human destruction.
Now if we want to speculate on that then we should look at Haiti that really has a problem.

WHO put out a D225G paper on Dec 28 and another on Friday. CDC just released sequences from the Duke Medical Center death cluster, which had H274Y coupled with D225G and D225N (in DEAD patients infected by transmitting H274Y and D225G/N).


Is this info on Who website? Or do you have a link you could share with us?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:42 am
Posts: 56044
Location: Pittsburgh, PA USA
ms4920 wrote:
niman wrote:
ms4920 wrote:
We are no where near 1918. The worst and most fatal wave was in Autumn 1918.
I just find that this whole forum is mostly about 225G. There is very little mention if any, anywhere else.
Flutrends is showing Ukraine at a very low flu rate, all the news in Ukraine in political and nothing else.
We all know that the 225G is around but since there is nothing else really to speculate on then I guess we speculate on the coming of human destruction.
Now if we want to speculate on that then we should look at Haiti that really has a problem.

WHO put out a D225G paper on Dec 28 and another on Friday. CDC just released sequences from the Duke Medical Center death cluster, which had H274Y coupled with D225G and D225N (in DEAD patients infected by transmitting H274Y and D225G/N).


Is this info on Who website? Or do you have a link you could share with us?

http://www.who.int/entity/wer/2010/wer8504.pdf

_________________
www.twitter.com/hniman


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:42 pm
Posts: 1533
Location: Northern California
Thank you, Dr. Niman


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:02 am
Posts: 112
Location: Sweden West-Coast
What if the real killer in Ukraine appears to be the same as found in the Argentinean study?

[quote] Genomic sequencing of the virus from 26 H1N1pdm-infected patients Argentine suggested that increased CFR in the country was not associated with resistance to antiviral drugs, viral mutations, "genetic drift", or an increased prevalence of established risk factors.

To investigate whether co-infections may be responsible, researchers analyzed nasopharyngeal swab samples collected from 199 H1N1pdm-infected Argentine patients, 39 of them seriously ill (death or hospitalization) and 160 had mild disease.

The team used MassTag polymerase chain reaction to test samples for the presence of 33 antimicrobial agents.

The researchers found that 152 samples contained evidence of at least one additional agent for the potential pathogenic significance. These included S. pneumoniae (n = 62), Haemophilus influenzae (n = 104), human respiratory syncytial virus A (n = 11) and B (n = 1), Human Rhinovirus A (n = 1) and B (n = 4), human coronavirus 229E (n = 1) and OC43 (n = 2), Klebsiella pneumonia (n = 2), Acinetobacter baumannii (n = 2), Serratia marcescens (n = 1), Staphylococcus aureus (n = 35) and methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA, n = 6).

Further analysis showed that the presence of S. pneumoniae highly correlated with disease severity. Indeed, S. pneumoniae was present in 56.4% of patients with severe disease compared with only 25.0% of those with mild disease.

After accounting for other infections and risk factors, the researchers found that the presence of S. pneumoniae was associated with a 125-fold increased risk of severe disease H1N1pdm-infected individuals.
[/ Quote]
http://www.medwire-news.md/48/86186/Res ... paign=Feed% 3A + + MedWireNews% 28MedWire + News% 29
(Recently published and full text embedded in the link).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:42 pm
Posts: 1533
Location: Northern California
Very interesting bit of info. Maybe we should all be getting Pneumovax, too. I think that Wotan, I am not sure and I know Happy both endorsed Pneumonia Vaccine.
I also know HIB vaccine is a big deal, too and many children are not vaccinated for this either.
Could be what is happening. Good find, Ron. :thumbsup:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:42 am
Posts: 56044
Location: Pittsburgh, PA USA
Ron wrote:
What if the real killer in Ukraine appears to be the same as found in the Argentinean study?

Quote:
Genomic sequencing of the virus from 26 H1N1pdm-infected patients Argentine suggested that increased CFR in the country was not associated with resistance to antiviral drugs, viral mutations, "genetic drift", or an increased prevalence of established risk factors.

To investigate whether co-infections may be responsible, researchers analyzed nasopharyngeal swab samples collected from 199 H1N1pdm-infected Argentine patients, 39 of them seriously ill (death or hospitalization) and 160 had mild disease.

The team used MassTag polymerase chain reaction to test samples for the presence of 33 antimicrobial agents.

The researchers found that 152 samples contained evidence of at least one additional agent for the potential pathogenic significance. These included S. pneumoniae (n = 62), Haemophilus influenzae (n = 104), human respiratory syncytial virus A (n = 11) and B (n = 1), Human Rhinovirus A (n = 1) and B (n = 4), human coronavirus 229E (n = 1) and OC43 (n = 2), Klebsiella pneumonia (n = 2), Acinetobacter baumannii (n = 2), Serratia marcescens (n = 1), Staphylococcus aureus (n = 35) and methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA, n = 6).

Further analysis showed that the presence of S. pneumoniae highly correlated with disease severity. Indeed, S. pneumoniae was present in 56.4% of patients with severe disease compared with only 25.0% of those with mild disease.

After accounting for other infections and risk factors, the researchers found that the presence of S. pneumoniae was associated with a 125-fold increased risk of severe disease H1N1pdm-infected individuals.
[/ Quote]
http://www.medwire-news.md/48/86186/Res ... paign=Feed% 3A + + MedWireNews% 28MedWire + News% 29
(Recently published and full text embedded in the link).

The data on D225G/N really could not be clearer (no secondary infections required).

_________________
www.twitter.com/hniman


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Yahoo [Bot] and 65 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group