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 Post subject: D225G in India
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:34 pm 
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CDC has just released a handful of sequences at GISAID. Included is one sequence from India, A/India/8489/2009. It has D225G (collected Oct 20).

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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:56 pm 
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niman wrote:
CDC has just released a handful of sequences at GISAID. Included is one sequence from India, A/India/8489/2009. It has D225G (collected Oct 20).


With all the deaths in India, I am surprised this is the first we are hearing of this. It should be a no brainer, since it is all over the world, now.


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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:03 pm 
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What alarms me is that every case that has been associated with D225G or D225N that Dr. Niman has highlighted appears to be associated with death, or at least very closely associated with it. Forget Bird flu recombinations... these strains seem to be far worse.


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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:21 pm 
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ms4920 wrote:
niman wrote:
CDC has just released a handful of sequences at GISAID. Included is one sequence from India, A/India/8489/2009. It has D225G (collected Oct 20).


With all the deaths in India, I am surprised this is the first we are hearing of this. It should be a no brainer, since it is all over the world, now.

The collection date was a strong signal of when deaths in India began to take off. When the sequences from Ukraine were released, the lights went on.

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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:09 pm 
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I remember a couple of random articles from India is the October/November time frame that described a number of fatal cases from a "new" flu; not pandemic H1N1, that they consulted the CDC over. They seemed quite panicked about it. My guess is that the flu failed available PCRs for H1N1 in India at the time. After that, there was an article or two about a mutated "more fatal" flu that was circulating; but these reports were disputed by other agencies/political appointees.

Interesting to see confirmation of my guess at the time; that the "new" flu was H1N1 and the same as what was causing the explosion of deaths in Ukraine.


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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:38 pm 
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Make sure to read the footnotes. That is where most of the deaths reside.

http://pib.nic.in/h1n1/h1n1.asp


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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
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http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01131 ... India.html

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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:08 pm 
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Who posted this? :confused:

H1N1 D225G In India

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/11764/H1 ... India.html


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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:47 am 
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niman wrote:
CDC has just released a handful of sequences at GISAID. Included is one sequence from India, A/India/8489/2009. It has D225G (collected Oct 20).

India has released a sequence, A/Pune/NIV8489/2009, which appears to be the above sequence without D225G.

The travel log for the earlier GISAID sequence, released by the CDC includes:
gb|GU292353.1| Influenza A virus (A/Pune/NIV6447/2009(H1N1)) ... 38.2 0.20
gb|GU292354.1| Influenza A virus (A/Pune/NIV8489/2009(H1N1)) ... 38.2 0.20
gb|GU292355.1| Influenza A virus (A/Pune/NIV9355/2009(H1N1)) ... 38.2 0.20
gb|CY051607.1| Influenza A virus (A/New York/4567/2009(H1N1))... 38.2 0.20
gb|CY041790.1| Influenza A virus (A/New York/3463/2009(H1N1))... 38.2 0.20
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gb|GU292353.1| Influenza A virus (A/Pune/NIV6447/2009(H1N1)) ... 34.2 3.1
gb|GU292354.1| Influenza A virus (A/Pune/NIV8489/2009(H1N1)) ... 34.2 3.1
gb|GU292355.1| Influenza A virus (A/Pune/NIV9355/2009(H1N1)) ... 34.2 3.1
gb|CY056164.1| Influenza A virus (A/Pensacola/INS40/2009(H1N1... 34.2 3.1
gb|GU595065.1| Influenza A virus (A/Sulaimani/05/2009(H1N1)) ... 34.2 3.1
gb|GQ329100.1| Influenza A virus (A/Paris/2650/2009(H1N1)) se... 34.2 3.1
gb|GQ229357.1| Influenza A virus (A/swine/Hong Kong/9656/2001... 34.2 3.1

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 Post subject: Re: D225G in India
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:59 am 
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Wouldn't two tests from the same person have different, but generally sequential numbers?

How does the CDC and Indian labs test the same sample and produce different sequences? Are these the result of different testing methods, or more evidence of the notion that D225G is a lab artifact?


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