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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:57 am 
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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:22 am 
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Poland offered lab help with testing the isolates and virus identification. Ukraine says "it could be helpfull" (but isolates were not yet sent). In the morning I have heard in the radio that Ukraine sent the isolates to the London and that tests for novel A/H1N1 will be known in... two weeks. Our lab from Warsaw offers the testing in several hours.

In the radio they are dividing the fatalities in two groups - "killed by A/H1N1" and "pneumonia fatalities". They are talking about "informational chaos" in the radio.

There are official anouncements for Poles: not to go to Ukraine. But the border will remain opened "until situation becomes catastrophic". You should know that in two days here will be religious holiday in Poland - many Poles will go to families in Ukraine and many Ukrainians will come to Poland. There will be massive meetings on graveyards. I think it could worst the situation.


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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:33 am 
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Poland offered lab help with testing the isolates and virus identification. Ukraine says "it could be helpfull" (but isolates were not yet sent). In the morning I have heard in the radio that Ukraine sent the isolates to the London and that tests for novel A/H1N1 will be known in... two weeks. Our lab from Warsaw offers the testing in several hours.

In the radio they are dividing the fatalities in two groups - "killed by A/H1N1" and "pneumonia fatalities". They are talking about "informational chaos" in the radio.

There are official anouncements for Poles: not to go to Ukraine. But the border will remain opened "until situation becomes catastrophic". You should know that in two days here will be religious holiday in Poland - many Poles will go to families in Ukraine and many Ukrainians will come to Poland. There will be massive meetings on graveyards. I think it could worst the situation.

The same type of dividing up of cases happens in media reports in the US also. Cases with fever and typical flu symptoms are put in one category, and those with gastrointestinal symptoms are put in another and the same thing happens with coughs and sore throats. Some have even called the absenteeism in schools due to a "perfect storm" involving multiple diseases happening in the same schools at the same time (and of course all of the students are infected with H1N1).

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:38 am 
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Some exact numbers from this article http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/2069652,12,ch ... ,item.html:

upper respiratory disease or the flu: 37 923 cases - state for 15:00 (polish time) yesterday,

upper respiratory disease or the flu: more than 80 000 cases, including 33 500 children - state for 08:00 (polish time) today.

There is said in the article that data are taken from Ukrainian Ministry of Health web site.


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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:39 am 
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Wszebor:
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In the radio they are dividing the fatalities in two groups - "killed by A/H1N1" and "pneumonia fatalities". They are talking about "informational chaos" in the radio.

Wow! Thanks for the updates! Please, keep us posted on what's going on in that part of the world.


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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:05 pm 
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Wszebor:
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Poland offered lab help with testing the isolates and virus identification. Ukraine says "it could be helpfull" (but isolates were not yet sent). In the morning I have heard in the radio that Ukraine sent the isolates to the London and that tests for novel A/H1N1 will be known in... two weeks. Our lab from Warsaw offers the testing in several hours.


Couldn't Ukraine have sent isolates to both countries' labs? Fast results from Warsaw and then confirmation (or non-) from London?
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That Ukraine has apparently skipped Poland on this urgent issue must be kinda maddening, considering the shared border.

Imagine Mexico rejecting offers of help from US labs last April.


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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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Wszebor wrote:
Some exact numbers from this article http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/2069652,12,ch ... ,item.html:

upper respiratory disease or the flu: 37 923 cases - state for 15:00 (polish time) yesterday,

upper respiratory disease or the flu: more than 80 000 cases, including 33 500 children - state for 08:00 (polish time) today.

There is said in the article that data are taken from Ukrainian Ministry of Health web site.

Machine translation:

In Ukraine, there is a tremendous information chaos of the epidemic of influenza, including the type A/H1N1. According to Health Minister Vasyl Kniazewycza been 11 confirmed cases of A/H1N1. The same number of patients with an exchange at a press conference Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. Meanwhile, according to President Viktor Yushchenko, 11 people died due to A/H1N1 infection.
As a result of respiratory infections "died (total) 32 persons, among which was confirmed in 11 swine influenza (A/H1N1)" - Yushchenko told journalists.

The afternoon on the website of the Ukrainian Ministry of Health was only a message saying the total number of patients with upper respiratory tract infection or flu, indicating that this is the state on Thursday at noon. 15.00 Polish time. There were then 37 923.

At. 14.30 Polish time the website has got new message, according to which the number of patients with acute respiratory infections or the flu was more than 81 thousand. people, including 33.5 thousand. children. As noted, these are the data at 8:00 Polish time.

Given in this document, the death toll at 33 The Communication Ministry of Health has no separate data on the deceased as a result of the virus A/H1N1.

As explained earlier the Prime Minister Tymoshenko, finding that the victim died of influenza A/H1N1, is now virtually impossible.

Although the morning Kniazewycz Minister announced that over Ukraine started an epidemic of influenza A/H1N1, the head of government announced before noon that the epidemic is only three wards: located at the Polish border in Lviv and Ternopil and Ivano-Frankivsk.

Circuits have been quarantined, which also applies to other vulnerable regions: Volyn, Transcarpathian, Chernivtsi, Rivne, Khmelnytsky and Winnica.

Tymoshenko also informed that due to the high number of cases the government decided to close across the country for 3 weeks of all educational institutions and the cancellation of mass events, including the meanings of cinema.

Ukrainian Prime Minister also asked citizens to refrain from traveling around the country and warned that people traveling across the border will be controlled by the current border crossing doctors.

He informed the Consul General of Poland in Lviv Opalinski Gregory, who works at the border crossings between Ukraine and the Polish today are equipped with protective masks.

Spreading news about avian influenza in Ukraine cause panic among the population. In Kiev pharmacies could not be bought or masks, or preparations antygrypowych.

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:19 pm 
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Wszebor wrote:
Poland offered lab help with testing the isolates and virus identification. Ukraine says "it could be helpfull" (but isolates were not yet sent). In the morning I have heard in the radio that Ukraine sent the isolates to the London and that tests for novel A/H1N1 will be known in... two weeks. Our lab from Warsaw offers the testing in several hours.

In the radio they are dividing the fatalities in two groups - "killed by A/H1N1" and "pneumonia fatalities". They are talking about "informational chaos" in the radio.

There are official anouncements for Poles: not to go to Ukraine. But the border will remain opened "until situation becomes catastrophic". You should know that in two days here will be religious holiday in Poland - many Poles will go to families in Ukraine and many Ukrainians will come to Poland. There will be massive meetings on graveyards. I think it could worst the situation.

The samples were sent to Mill Hill for sequencing (everyone knows the patients are dying from H1N1).

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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In the near future for Ukraine will be a special laboratory to detect influenza virus A/H1N1.

According to an UNIAN correspondent, reported this today at a meeting to discuss the epidemiological situation in the western region, said Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

According to her, in total they will buy 17 pieces.

"To take all necessary measures with a much larger margin of strength and resources that are needed in order to prevent the spread of the disease, we recognize today the beginning of the epidemic as a third level of threat", - said Tymoshenko, explaining that This means that "we will devote the most resources, which is provided, and enter all organizational activities that correspond exactly to a level of danger."

"We are definitely going to involve all ministries and departments. If you'd like - we will seek further assistance from the Army and FEMA. But only if need be ", - said Tymoshenko.

http://health.unian.net/rus/detail/201717

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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The story is generating interest in UK

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Hot+Topics/F ... lu?type=ts

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