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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:02 pm 
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Now we will finally learn the real story.


Assuming the released sequences are from interesting cases. Keeping with the conspiracies, they could have found some very mild cases to sequence and we may simply have more uninteresting wild-type sequences...


Indeed, that's a possibility

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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In the mean time, I am copying from this website's section H1N1 reports/Europe/Ukraine

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At present, experts have confirmed 29 cases of influenza A/H1N1 in the Odessa region and one case of death from complications (pneumonia) caused by the "swine" influenza. Such data has led today to the board meeting of the Odessa regional state administration deputy chief health officer of the region, Nina Vegerzhinskaya.

However, Vegerzhinskaya noted, "the incidence of influenza and acute respiratory viral infections in the past week fell in the area twice: during the day is fixed on average a thousand cases, the rate of intensity as before, close to the level epidporoga writes UNIAN.

Based on the projected second and third waves incidence of these illnesses oblSES appealed to the leadership for the allocation of funds for the purchase of test kits for detection of influenza virus A/H1N1 specialist virology laboratory.

In addition, added the Deputy Chief Doctor oblSES it is necessary to provide the region with antiviral medicines, cotton-gauze bandages and masks.


http://www.glavred.info/archive/2009/11 ... 117-0.html


I was thinking, remembering reports from local doctors from the early days of the Ukraine epidemic, that test kits were not working properly in the majority of cases. Also from other countries there have been reports that not all test kits did pick up H1N1 when they should have. Ironic that Odessa is thinking now of ordering such ....

On a whole other note, I think at some time there is need for reseach to find out why such a high percentage of test kits in Ukraine did not pick up H1N1, what brand of tests they were, if they were real or fake tests etc. In the early days of the pandemic only for proven cases of H1N1 Tamiflu was released to the relevant hospital from central storages here in Ukraine, and most of the tests seem to have failed to give the proper reading ....


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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:06 pm 
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wotan wrote:
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Now we will finally learn the real story.


Assuming the released sequences are from interesting cases. Keeping with the conspiracies, they could have found some very mild cases to sequence and we may simply have more uninteresting wild-type sequences...

D225G in LUNGS!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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niman wrote:
wotan wrote:
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Now we will finally learn the real story.


Assuming the released sequences are from interesting cases. Keeping with the conspiracies, they could have found some very mild cases to sequence and we may simply have more uninteresting wild-type sequences...

D225G in LUNGS!!!!!!!


So much for the conspiracy...

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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niman wrote:
wotan wrote:
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Now we will finally learn the real story.


Assuming the released sequences are from interesting cases. Keeping with the conspiracies, they could have found some very mild cases to sequence and we may simply have more uninteresting wild-type sequences...

D225G in LUNGS!!!!!!!


I was just about to comment that your marked silence might indicate something interesting...

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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niman wrote:
wotan wrote:
Cascadians wrote:
Now we will finally learn the real story.


Assuming the released sequences are from interesting cases. Keeping with the conspiracies, they could have found some very mild cases to sequence and we may simply have more uninteresting wild-type sequences...

D225G in LUNGS!!!!!!!



Try to explain further Dr. Niman...not everybody knows what you are telling....

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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The rapid tests in the USA produce a majority of false negatives. The tests are faulty and often the swab collection is not right either.

Gauze masks won't do much to prevent the virus from getting through. H1N1 virus is tiny and N100 are necessary or even better masks, very expensive.


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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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niman wrote:
wotan wrote:
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Now we will finally learn the real story.


D225G in LUNGS!!!!!!!



Try to explain further Dr. Niman...not everybody knows what you are telling....

D225G was receptor binding domain change that was "in play". Also found in 1918. It is only in the lung samples (2 from Lviv and 2 from Ternipol)

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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Try to explain further Dr. Niman...not everybody knows what you are telling....


Yesterday I requested Dr. Niman start a genetics topic on this. Here is part of the explanation he gave:

http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20564#p20564

It is the expected change, as far as I can tell..

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 Post subject: Re: situation on Ukraine
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D225G in LUNGS!!!!!!!



Try to explain further Dr. Niman...not everybody knows what you are telling....

D225G was receptor binding domain change that was "in play". Also found in 1918. It is only in the lung samples (2 from Lviv and 2 from Ternipol)


Are you telling us, that this virus, have a change, what seems to do exactly like the spanish flu ?

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