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Systems with acoustic beaming are supposed to be military weapons (and, strangely, they are not in use in present battlefields).

TheFlu... TheFood... TheMoney... HumanNature

What a find... "snatamur" and the CopperConnection... is it really-really-real?
Anybody hungry... going out to eat at a restaurant, tonite?

WOW... 2 articles of overall interest from "Slate", today... the first of which reminds me of a gnawing question I've been wanting to place on the forum. What with all the talk of "how to adequately wash one's hands... not just any old quickie scrub will, apparently, do"... how are we all supposed to handle fresh fruits and veggies for daily meals (much less, how are we supposed to feel carefree about ordering in the restaurants for the next 1 - 3 years of all-seasonal-flu-be-do-o-o-o)? Anybody remember the research and study with "Credit Cards and/or Swiss Francs"... I think the "plastic" was supposed to be able to maintain TheFlu viability for up to 10 days or more (tucked away in that ol' petri dish of a friendly wallet and handbag)?

How much difference is there, really, in the skin of an apple and your Visa-Master-Discover, anyways? Assuming the grocery store personnel, culling the old leaves off of lettuce heads and engaged in re-stacking the fruit routines, do not in and of themselves exhibit any ILI characteristics... whatever are we going to do with the softee-and-oft-touched skin of tomatoes, by the way? O-yeah-Right... if'n my manner of washing hands'll never do... however in the soon-to-be-globalized-world am I supposed to tackle the time honored joy of preparing family meals, from 31 Dec 2009 onwards?

Hey, Hey... anybody have any updates on TheReality of "Codex Alimentarius"... to take effect, supposedly, soon after the big Thanksgiving&Christmas blow-out-traditional family homecomings and meals? Does anyone have a real idea as to the sudden definitional exclusivity of "vitamins-minerals-supplements-organics" from commercial trade and use within world markets by sheer dint of membership in World Trade Organization sanctioned treaties and agreements... is it all hype or do you think there's something to the concerns voiced by so many "naturals" supporters? Strange as it all seems to sound, the proponents of the same sure place great belief in long-term-planning... imagine signing off on paperwork in 1963 with an effective worldwide "compliance" date of 31 Dec 2009 ("Codex" allows GMO's, by the way... little-bit-odd-or-what... apparently, both House&Senate have "companion-type-surrogate" legislation) ???


Vilsack Booed For Support of GMO's
By Dan Mitchell October 13, 2009 http://www.thebigmoney.com/blogs/daily- ... pport-gmos

In a rude display of what happens when zero-sum political religion is injected into national policy debates, U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack was booed this morning when he told a crowd in Iowa that he supports both small, local, organic farms and conventional agriculture, including the careful development of genetically modified crops.

Vilsack, who represents the best hope that advocates of sustainable farming have seen in decades, nonetheless isn't pure enough for some of the more dogmatic ones who apparently think it's not only possible but advisable to simply topple industrialized agriculture and start over.

Speaking at a conference of the Community Food Security Coalition in Des Moines, Vilsack first "spent just over 30 minutes extolling community and organic food efforts to an appreciative audience of advocates" according to Kathie Obradovich, political columnist for the Des Moines Register.

But when he was asked about conventional agriculture and what he is doing to "curb" it, he said "I have two sons and I love them both. And your question sort of, kind of asks, 'Which son do you love the most?’"

That was too much for some in the audience. Over their grumbling, he noted the bare fact that industrial agriculture produces 75 percent of the nation's food and fiber and that's "not likely to change in the short term." In the meantime, he said, the government is working to help ensure that small farmers get "a fair break, a fair shake."

And what about the following... shades of the mysterious "Amero", perhaps?

Slate & BigMoney...

After the Fad: The next act for popular stocks and trends
The New Buck Starts Here
It's time to give American bills a makeover.
By Kevin Kelleher 13 Oct 2009 http://www.thebigmoney.com/slideshow/ne ... tarts-here

Pimp My Bill
Spare a moment to consider the tribulations of the U.S. dollar. It’s not just losing ground against other major currencies—its 60-year-run as the world’s reserve currency is threatening to come to a close (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/10/12/global-banks-drop-the-dollar-should-us-consumers-be-afraid/). In a world where brand has become the ultimate substance—where a stained name like Philip-Morris can be reborn as shiny new Altria maybe a design makeover is just what the dollar needs. Or so believes Richard Smith, a New York designer who is leading a grassroots campaign to redesign the U.S. dollar.

Hate to keep pointing it out; but, "it's all related, people"... Money-and-Drugs-and-Drugs-and-Money... whether or not some of the stuff is generic and comes right off of the shelf or is designed and distributed with all good intentions by BigPharma. By the way, graphic presentation #11 of the "currency" presentations actually shows the up-close version of a US Treasury $1 Bill... referred to as "outdated" in the article... for which, by the way, utilization of the same in the circulating currency levels of the MoneySupply requires no payment of increased interest obligations to TheFED nor does the same, technically, result in any increase of the US National Debt balances and such (hmm-m-m... why couldn't we all, so simply, be using such form of "outdated" fiat paper currency) ???

"The Fed Scam”
http://www.tomdavidd.com/blog/
Hoo-hah... here's a chance to watch Alan Grayson of "Republicans, let-'em-die" recent Health Options fame tackle TheFED and its own "in house watchdog" respond to some direct questioning... "presidential timbre", perhaps (signs off with Ron Paul on questioning the pragmatic rationale of re-enlisting BBernanke for another term) http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-10-07/ron-paul-and-alan-grayson-call-for-delay-to-bernanke-confirmation-hearing/



O-phoo... I knew I forgot something.
From the files of Rense (Dr. Niman's apparent favorite talkshow?) come the Prognostications-of-Celente... http://rense.com/general87/brace.htm

Hiya Mtnlife4u,

I am wondering about Codex Alimentarius, too..... listened to a lot of youtube presentations by passionate doctors on this topic that really have got my attention. Dr.Rima Laibow is by far the best to listen to, imo.

I would also like to figure out if this is really going down on dec 21, too.

The thing is, I personally think it has already begun on 'certain' levels. A lot of things regarding this is making so much sense right now....it is truly horrifying.

Mtn. One point you have made is to follow the money $$$$$$$$

Who stands to profit from this Codex Alimentarius?
Who controls the purse strings?

Codex Trust Fund application deadline 31 October 2009
http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp

Who benefits most from unilateral regulations for dietary supplements and from outlawing health products or information on vitamins and dietary supplements?

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld comes to mind:
I mean THAT was a conflict of interest
October 31, 2005:http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rumsfeld/

And LOOK at that timing:
Nature 437, 794-795 (6 October 2005) | doi:10.1038/437794a; Published online 5 October 2005
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 7794a.html

Does anyone here find the timing a bit convenient or odd in all of this?

Thats ALL I am going to say about that.

Hows this for a conspiracy ? And this just covers E. Coli

An internal investigation into the Department of Natural Resources E. Coli testing at the Lake of the Ozarks is now complete.

Governor Jay Nixon went over the results at that investigation Friday morning at his office at the State Capitol.

DNR is blamed for knowing there were high levels of the bacteria during a May test of the lake water, but they did not release those results until a month later at the end of June.

Mark Templeton, DNR's Director and 2 other employees were put on paid administrative leave during the investigation.

Nixon says Templeton, DNR's Director will be re-instated next week, but is withdrawing Joe Bindbeutel's appointment to the administrative hearing commission, a group in charge of regulating state licenses.

The investigation also shows that what happened this summer wasn't an isolated incident.

During the internal investigation it was found that over the past three years there were ten cases in which beaches at state parks were not closed despite high levels of E. Coli.

There were also 14 other cases since 2005 when DNR failed to tell the public about high levels of bacteria in the Lake of the Ozarks.
http://www.kmiz.com/news/story.php?id=1 ... or=Kristie Reeter&category=Public Safety&franchise=&county=&city=Argyle&partner=

Got to keep those tourist dollars rolling in...

Gee, I wonder who cooked up the 1918 H1N1?

Hm let me think.

http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/1918flupandemic.htm






What a coincidence.

This was the big kicker of that page

Hello Happy&Neuro...
I always enjoy pretending that I can follow along with the technical argumentation presented by yourselves... the contributions of Germany's "gsgs" are equally astonishing and I am glad that there's enough of you, out there, who speak the same genomic sequence language as Dr. Niman. I trust, at some point, everyone will agree with one another and/or the technical-ese will be reduced to layman-ease and I'll be better able to follow along and root for the winner. In this regard, I mentioned to "gs" that my interest was more "human than virion" and hoped that he wouldn't be too disappointed in my openly acknowledged inadequacy to follow all that much along.

In my opinion, there are 3 separate, yet, equally valid methods of investigative and analytical approaches to the Phenomenae-of-Pandemia... the genomic sequence, human expectation/reaction and fiscal influence patterns of behavior (for lack of more "campfire-commonly" accepted terminology... 'tis almost impossible to engage in truly productive give-and-take-bs-sessions in the online mode... minimal humor projection possible, without fear of insulting and/or alerting some invisible lurker, aside from a few well-chosen emoticons, of course ).

Tom23 and "ptb" (cleverly chosen lower case acronym, that ) seem to fully comprehend the methodology related to "fiscal influence", btw (quite happy to have picked up that "btw"... learned it right here on FluTracker... couldn't figure it out for a while...MKey seems to have mastered the short-shrift-script, himself, quite well I've noticed). My comments apropos the commentaries of Happy&Neuro, however, are not at all that earth-shattering, I'm quite sure. However, I am somewhat amazed at the speed with which Academia had, apparently and at some length (http://www.jidc.org/index.php/journal/a ... wFile/18/9), reacted to the entire affair and discovery of the initial outbreak of Novel-Swine-H1N1 in Mexico. As I recall, the initial reports were not much earlier than the Received 25 April 2009 - Accepted 27 April 2009 referenced in the text header, below. Seems to me, I had another question, way-back-when... are initial discoveries of various strains of TheFlu always referred to as "Novel" in descriptive terms... I thought Taubenberger&Team also refered to such by the same terminology, in much earlier papers? Seeing as how, so much of all other officialdom's reaction was so slow in forthcoming, 'tis perhaps odd and unexpected, that's all? How "un-katrina-like", these folks seem to have gotten right on it, however; unless I'm treading on the thin ice of mis-interpretation, hmm-m-m-m (someone, out there, will take me to task I'm sure) ???

Just think, if a CampfireConvention might ever need be arranged MKey-Happy-Neuro could give "classes for credit and general knowledge" on subjects, both, medical and technical... international "short-you-tuber" presentations (without sub-titles) could be offered by "Suisse&gsgs" and Conspiracy-contingency-Planning by Tom23 and "ptb" (well-l-l-l... I can always edit out too close an association with Tom&Conspiracy, of course), as well, one of the RV's could be outfitted as a traveling FluVue for trips to the BigCities and School Districts (not to get into any copyright infringement hassles with the Boys-in-Hazmat nor Men-in-Black, that is).

Emerging Problems in Infectious Diseases
Macrolides for the treatment of severe respiratory illness caused by novel H1N1 swine influenza viral strains
Jesús F Bermejo-Martin1,3, David J. Kelvin2, Jose María Eiros1, Javier Castrodeza1, Raúl Ortiz de Lejarazu1
1National Centre of Influenza, Valladolid, Spain
2University of Health Network Toronto/ International Institute of Infection and Immunity, Shantou Medical School, China
3Hospital Clínico Universitario de Valladolid-IECSCYL, Microbiology Service, Infection and Immunity Division. Valladolid, Spain
J Infect Developing Countries 2009; 3(3):159-161.
Received 25 April 2009 - Accepted 27 April 2009
Copyright © 2009 Bermejo et al. This is an open-access article distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.

In closing, my remarks regarding the 3 separate-yet-related perspectives associated with the reaction of all concerned protagonists... TheVirus, JohnQP, ThePolitics, The$Power... and their individual, as well, collective and/or competitive relationships (Push&Pull-of-PandemicPandemonium) with the "Summer 2009 Production: TheFlu" are meant to be, "just that" !!! Insofar as the above remarks cause others to ponder the continuing tragedy and drama, I welcome your critique and contributions to the mainstream of FluTracker-Forum. Whatever "it" is and will be... it's "out there", now! How controllable-directable-containable... to the ultimate point of Victory-over-Virion and vindication, perhaps, of the more controversial aspects and purported designs of BigPharma<BigBanks>BigPolitics... all such remains to be seen (or remain hidden from more public view and discussion, I suppose). Very interesting, to note, how seldom visited so many of these threads and postings are concerned... makes one wonder, despite the recorded higher levels of participation, recently (sometimes, in the 2000's, I understand)... W.H.O, exactly, reads all of our concern and pre-occupation. In the end, out of some 307-Million Americans at large... W.H.O. knows (of course) and "who" cares, anyway... LaMont Cranston ???


Riddle... Which came first:
Chicken or Egg
Flu or Anti-Viral
Conspiracy or Contingency
Money or Politics
Gaia or GOD, perhaps, God or GAIA
BMHubbard or JWJones (Wow... of all the things one can find on google... http://www.flynnfiles.com/archives/amer ... stown.html)