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 Post subject: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:21 pm 
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This thread is for discussion of the various "conspiracy theories" that have evolved as a result of the Influenza pandemic. This is where we can talk about and report on opinions and articles concerning the possibility that this is a lab created virus as opposed to a naturally evolving one and if so, who did it and why.

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Changed title to be a bit more clear. Also changed the topic from Sticky to Normal.


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together
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As Swine Flu Spreads, Conspiracy Theories of Laboratory Origins Abound

NaturalNews wrote:
Perhaps due to the genetic makeup of the fast-spreading H1N1 strain of influenza -- which includes genetic elements from bird flu, swine flu and human flu spanning three continents -- there is considerable speculation that the origins of this virus are man-made.

It's not an unreasonable question to ask: Could world governments, spooked by the prospect of radical climate change caused by over-population of the planet, have assembled a super-secret task force to engineer and distribute a super virulent strain of influenza designed to "correct" the human population (and institute global Martial Law)?...


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together
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This is an interesting picture... <grin>

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together
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[quote="Tom23"]It's not an unreasonable question to ask: Could world governments, spooked by the prospect of radical climate change caused by over-population of the planet, have assembled a super-secret task force to engineer and distribute a super virulent strain of influenza designed to "correct" the human population (and institute global Martial Law)?..."


I don't know about that, but it makes a terrific plot for a novel.


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together
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yes, there will be and already are plenty who shout 'conspiracy'. but you know how they say truth is stranger than fiction; this is for real and it's been coming a long time and now it's here. the plague (black death) was no conspiracy; just life. so too h1n1. as a society of modern technology, etc we've come to believe it can't happen to us. the tsunami of 2004 said 'guess what'. katrina said 'guess what'. so too h1n1 2009


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
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Tom had a good idea to start this thread.

The other forum was regularily disturbed by reccuring discussion that had exactly the same background.

I think that new parties will emerge worldwide, based on the theories of conspiracy.
These new parties will take an important place in the 21th Century.


To stick to the present thread, I have to repeat that the virus is nothing as such:
What makes the epidemics is mainly the human behaviour.

Therefore, any microorganism has the effect we let it have.

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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
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there is some indication that the virus has undergone some mutation. A group at Colombia University has identified eight mutation point changes in the virus from samples taken from Argentina. But nobody has really been able to show that those mutations have any significance clinically. So, we don't really know if that's in anyway involved.


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
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You know I really used to laugh at all the conspiracy theories. But lately I have to say what once would seem far fetched has become more plausible these days. I have seen the control over the media and have seen policy put in place when most of the people who would be voters would disagree. Even we flutrackers are considered to be a bit nuts. I would say take everything with a grain of salt but conversely dismiss nothing these days. I will give you an example of world control here. Non smoking policies sweep the globe even in undeveloped countries in less than a few years. Now I will grant you that smoking is bad and needs to go away. But to implement a sweeping change globally in a very short period of time in populations who would not accept this change easily shows me that there are greater powers working in the world than the average sheep on the street would be aware of. :geek:


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
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I probably wouldn't be able to find the article now, but I had read an article saying that the virus was specifically designed to constantly mutate so that a vaccine would be ineffective. Of course, I find it hard to believe, and yes it would make for a good SyFy movie.


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 Post subject: Re: Breathing Together - Conspiracy Theories Discussion
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I probably wouldn't be able to find the article now, but I had read an article saying that the virus was specifically designed to constantly mutate so that a vaccine would be ineffective. Of course, I find it hard to believe, and yes it would make for a good SyFy movie.


That's Captain Tripps, the virus in Stephen King's The Stand.

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