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I am sensing that Dr. Niman's tune/attitude towards the WHO/CDC is shifting now ever so slightly. Perhaps there is a window of opportunity here for him to join with those of us who have been saying for months that there is indeed an agenda here. While it may be theoretically possible for D225G to have suddenly emerged in a nation that was previously H1N1 free (near a Baxter facility) and technically possible for Baxter to have let 18 very deadly live viruses samples spread across the labs of Europe (which could have triggered untold casualties if the "error" hadn't been detected early) and while it is also technically possible that the original H1N1 outbreak occurred near a Baxter lab in Mexico last Spring, at some point all of these "coincidences" must register as non-anomalous to a great scientific mind.

Add that to the documented incredible number of top scientists and microbiologists since 911 who have died under unresolved circumstances--some of whom may have been Dr. Niman's equal (or even better?) in helping us get at the truth of what is now occurring, and you potentially have a very dangerous agenda here.

I asked Dr. Niman to come on my show and debate a certain Australian virologist. Will he ever take up the challenge?

Steve Martin
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Your sense is incorrect. The Ukraine story just provided hard evidence of how silly the wackdoodle about Baxter, contaminated vaccines, H5N1 sequences, 1918 sequences, chemtrails, pneumonic plaque, and all other nonsnese on Ukraine was.

I have ZERO interest in debating wackdoodle or wackdoodlers. Anyone who still believes the nonsense put out by these sites is well beyond help (they have incuable googlitis, at best).

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The CFR in 1918 was closer to 5%.

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I think we are at a point in time whereby the actions of WHO are becoming difficult to justify as merely incompetent or cautious. Obvious stonewalling if information etc and their agenda of damage limitation so as not to incite public panic has ties to economic policy and not their mandate of protecting health. Leave that to someone else please WHO.

Steve, the whole Baxter thing is disturbing. I must admit that I dismissed it as crazy at first but it really does not take much research to find Baxter "popping" up all over the place right in the middle of the whole pandemic story. Just what the hell is going on here folks? My wife is a paralegal and has worked in this field for over 9 years. From our many dinner time chats, I get circumstantial evidence. I get placing people at the scene of a crime. I get that at some point, 2+2 = 4.

The dead microbiologist story is equally disturbing. We are up to about 95 or so of these very grounded minds being 'suicided' or found dead in very suspicious circumstances. You have to go where the evidence leads you folks, no matter how painful that is to go. I don't want to go there, I really don't so can someone else research the story and shed some light on it.

Steve, I would not expect full disclosure from Niman of his true personal feelings. He has NO part in this, he sticks to the evidence and should be commended in the highest order for that but if all of the above is indeed true, would he not somewhere deep down possibly fear for his own life also?

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You see Baxter popping up because of wackadoodlers. That is their method. Dead micobiologists is PURE googlitis and always has been. Baxter has NOTHING to do with the H1N1 pandemic. It is propagated by an ABSENCE of data, like attempts to tie Baxter to Ukraine when Ukraine is solely linked to D225G, was predicted prior to the sequences coming out, and has absolutely nothing to do with Baxter or any other wackadoodle on Ukraine. The wackaddodlers were wrong on ALL counts, and STILL want to tie in Baxter AFTER the fact. They are beyond belief (and science).

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Thanks Niman for clearing that up. I'll stick to the topic from now on. I was merely musing. I must admit, I do have google-itis. Can you develop a vaccine for that please? I'm infected.

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While I know a conspiracy is much a more tantilizing possibility, no matter how remote, than simple human error and nature at work, the organizations and processes involved are extremely complex systems. Complex systems such as pharmeceutical companies and world health organizations are made up of complex human beings who make mistakes. Not from incompetence or a willingness to harm, but because of human factors within the system and human behaviours and neurobiology. Nature is just doing its thing being opportunistic with the drive to survive, even a lowly little undead virus.
Now the science behind how mistakes and errors happen is a much more facinating topic for your show, however people woud have to be willing to suspend the human need to blame someone and burn the guilty and I don't see that happening any time soon

I don't believe that the people with the websites, radio programs, etc. disseminating conspiracy tales believe their own BS. No doubt they've got "not so bright" readers/listeners whose jaws drop as they hear these comic book versions of reality, but the website builders and radio talk show hosts don't believe it themselves.

If they did, you would think they would organize protest marches, etc. But no money in that.

Instead, there's money in asking for donations so they can "get the word out". Or there's money in selling written or recorded materials that "reveal the truth" (even though they may get killed for doing so!!!). Or there's money in telling people not to get the vaccine because they'll be injected with an RFID device so that the devil can better control them...so buy their MegaSilver (on sale!) instead.

It's all a scam....and there's a sucker born...and a person who exploits that sucker...every minute.

But if people start dying, the scammers are taking a chance. I can see the parents of an unvaccinated, now dead, child going after the MegaSilver seller with a baseball bat to the face.