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You really are as lost as ever.

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apparantly WHO claims for copyright on flunet-data,
counts of tested isolates submitted by the countries.



© World Health Organization - FluNet, 2009. All rights reserved.

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no patents on genes, publish the GISAID sequences !

You are as lost on copyright law as you are on patent law.

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will you (or someone else) "publish" e.g. the Ukrainian sequences then
by posting them here ? So that I can include them in my _public_
mutation tables and mutation graphics ?

You seem to think they are important to understand
the pathogenic potential of mexflu correctly.
So withholding them is " hazardous to the world's health " ,
as you used to formulate it, right ?

What's more important :
your user agreement, maybe your registration/membership with GISAID
or
world's health ?


weren't you one of the first to sign the "release of H5N1-sequences" - petition in 2006 ?
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/ ... 12006&1201

which I hereby encourage other readers here to sign

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no patents on genes, publish the GISAID sequences !

Huh?

It's been out there since 2006, and they're STILL soliciting signatures?

Normally, you solicit signatures and then DO something with those signatures. It's been four years and still nothing has been done with the signatures?

Please enlighten me. I'd like to understand what purpose(s) (if any) the signatures have been used for, aside from a public show-and-tell on the Internet for the last four years.

they may have contributed to the very emergence of GISAID
which was intended to remove the dilemma of countries withholding
sequences. Now some sequences are available at GISAID
which would probably not be available anyway, else.
(e.g Indonesian)
However I think that also many sequence that now appear
at GISAID only would else have appeared at genbank (public,
"public domain")
Originally it was announced that GISAID-sequences should
be uploaded to genbank after at most 6 months.
But this was either never really intended or subsequently
abandonned, I'm not sure.

The petition may have contributed that indeed many sequences
were released in 2006 by China,Indonesia,St.Dude...
But, as we know the situation worsened in 2007 when
Indonesia stopped releasing sequences since they were
"pissed" with Australian CSL claiming for a patent for
a vaccine on "their" virus


see e.g. here for the situation in 2006:
http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2 ... uences.php

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no patents on genes, publish the GISAID sequences !

Mill Hill promptly released the Ukraine sequences. They have been public since November and several sets of analysis have been released.

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making data available to everyone in computer-readable form


open data movement

USA: http://data.gov
UK: http://data.gov.uk
worldbank: http://data.worldbank.org
Spain: http://www.abredatos.es/bases/


Germany: ? (Stefan Gehrke)

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no patents on genes, publish the GISAID sequences !

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no patents on genes, publish the GISAID sequences !

Most government agencies (CDC in US, Mill Hill in Euope, HPA in UK, WHO regional center in Australia, NIID in Jpana, Influenza Center in China) that sequence influenza make sequences available at the public database, GISAID.

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