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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:10 pm 
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MUTANT swine flu strains, resistant to existing treatments, have been detected in Australia by Melbourne researchers, sparking concerns of a new virus threat.
Swine flu has been stable since the 2009 pandemic, in which 24 deaths in the state were linked to the H1N1 virus.

But researchers from the WHO Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza found that 30 per cent of H1N1 samples collected in Darwin and 10 per cent in Singapore, had the mutation S247N. This variant has lower resistance to current drugs, Tamiflu and Relenza.

Deputy director of the WHO Centre and senior author of the study, Dr Ian Barr, said the mutation was worrying.

"We'd prefer our viruses be completely susceptible to all our medications, so, it's always a concern when we see even low-level resistance to them in these viruses," he said.

Dr Barr said treatments generally would work against the new flu strain, but the greatest problem would be treating patients with more than one type of mutated virus.

A sample from a Perth patient who died in March revealed he had the new S247N mutation, but also another variant, H275Y, a combination 6000 times more resistant than the 2009 pandemic strain.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6081968935


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:43 pm 
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Isn't this weeks old. Why is it a new thread.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:18 am 
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Isn't this weeks old. Why is it a new thread.

This story cites the earlier data, but the quotes are a bit more dire and may reflect additional S246N isolates such as one of the most recent CDC sequences from the US

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7265

Although most of your posts reflect your interest in promoting Biota, you seem to fail to understand the significance of the clonal expansion of this chnage, or the jump to the S188T background as seen in the US.

This change has serious implications for Tamiflu and Relenza.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:31 am 
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niman wrote:
cpg wrote:
Isn't this weeks old. Why is it a new thread.

This story cites the earlier data, but the quotes are a bit more dire and may reflect additional S246N isolates such as one of the most recent CDC sequences from the US

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7265

Although most of your posts reflect your interest in promoting Biota, you seem to fail to understand the significance of the clonal expansion of this chnage, or the jump to the S188T background as seen in the US.

This change has serious implications for Tamiflu and Relenza.


LOL. I get it Niman. This article has language more in tune with the
scaremongering you love to promote, so it's worth repeating. You are so transparent . They aren't dying in the streets yet but you never know.

If only you did all this for mankind instead of your own self interest and financial reward. How better off would we be. You no doubt have a brilliant mind.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:44 am 
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cpg wrote:
niman wrote:
cpg wrote:
Isn't this weeks old. Why is it a new thread.

This story cites the earlier data, but the quotes are a bit more dire and may reflect additional S246N isolates such as one of the most recent CDC sequences from the US

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7265

Although most of your posts reflect your interest in promoting Biota, you seem to fail to understand the significance of the clonal expansion of this chnage, or the jump to the S188T background as seen in the US.

This change has serious implications for Tamiflu and Relenza.


LOL. I get it Niman. This article has language more in tune with the
scaremongering you love to promote, so it's worth repeating. You are so transparent . They aren't dying in the streets yet but you never know.

If only you did all this for mankind instead of your own self interest and financial reward. How better off would we be. You no doubt have a brilliant mind.

You remain as clueless as ever.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:27 am 
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cpg wrote:
niman wrote:
cpg wrote:
Isn't this weeks old. Why is it a new thread.

This story cites the earlier data, but the quotes are a bit more dire and may reflect additional S246N isolates such as one of the most recent CDC sequences from the US

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7265

Although most of your posts reflect your interest in promoting Biota, you seem to fail to understand the significance of the clonal expansion of this chnage, or the jump to the S188T background as seen in the US.

This change has serious implications for Tamiflu and Relenza.


LOL. I get it Niman. This article has language more in tune with the
scaremongering you love to promote, so it's worth repeating. You are so transparent . They aren't dying in the streets yet but you never know.

If only you did all this for mankind instead of your own self interest and financial reward. How better off would we be. You no doubt have a brilliant mind.


Dear CPG, what would be according to you the financial interest that doctor Niman could pull it? :scratch:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:43 pm 
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cpg wrote:
If only you did all this for mankind instead of your own self interest and financial reward. How better off would we be. You no doubt have a brilliant mind.
Why should Dr. Niman be expected not to profit from his work? To my understanding, that is what Buddha called "right livelihood" - doing something which benefits not only oneself, but others as well. Dr. Niman is at the very least raising important questions with regard to the threat and science of influenza, and if he benefits financially from it then more power to him. You should take what he says with a grain of salt in either case, as either way he could be right or wrong. Your comment is simply a meritless, personal attack.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:52 am 
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Jon Schultz wrote:
cpg wrote:
If only you did all this for mankind instead of your own self interest and financial reward. How better off would we be. You no doubt have a brilliant mind.
Why should Dr. Niman be expected not to profit from his work? To my understanding, that is what Buddha called "right livelihood" - doing something which benefits not only oneself, but others as well. Dr. Niman is at the very least raising important questions with regard to the threat and science of influenza, and if he benefits financially from it then more power to him. You should take what he says with a grain of salt in either case, as either way he could be right or wrong. Your comment is simply a meritless, personal attack.


Nimans the master of personal attacks.!!

Yes there is nothing wrong with making a buck. You just need to understand where Niman makes his money. If it's all quiet in flu land then the flu mapping and other flu related income falls away.

So occasionally it's a pandemic there and a pandemic here. Much of the science Niman comments on is very interesting and valid. Just beware of the self interest to have the flu in the news.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:39 am 
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cpg wrote:
Nimans the master of personal attacks.!!

Yes there is nothing wrong with making a buck. You just need to understand where Niman makes his money. If it's all quiet in flu land then the flu mapping and other flu related income falls away.

So occasionally it's a pandemic there and a pandemic here. Much of the science Niman comments on is very interesting and valid. Just beware of the self interest to have the flu in the news.

I think you are projecting your primary motivation onto Dr. Niman and don't have a clue as to his. That is just my opinion for what it's worth. In any case we are off topic and I won't be offended if the moderator removes these posts.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:26 am 
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Jon Schultz wrote:
cpg wrote:
If only you did all this for mankind instead of your own self interest and financial reward. How better off would we be. You no doubt have a brilliant mind.
Why should Dr. Niman be expected not to profit from his work? To my understanding, that is what Buddha called "right livelihood" - doing something which benefits not only oneself, but others as well. Dr. Niman is at the very least raising important questions with regard to the threat and science of influenza, and if he benefits financially from it then more power to him. You should take what he says with a grain of salt in either case, as either way he could be right or wrong. Your comment is simply a meritless, personal attack.

Jon, You are spot on. cpg started the attacks right after the paper on Relenza resistance was released, and the attacks have been numerous and transparent (and clearly represent the rants of a concerned Biota shareholder).

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