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 Post subject: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:56 pm 
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CDC is now raising the pediatric deaths to 540 as announced in the ongoing press conference

http://www.flu.gov/live/

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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:58 pm 
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How will we know if these deaths come before they were vaccinated or after??


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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
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lilfox wrote:
How will we know if these deaths come before they were vaccinated or after??

These have nothing to do with vaccine. The children died prior to vaccine availability,

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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
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niman wrote:
CDC is now raising the pediatric deaths to 540 as announced in the ongoing press conference

http://www.flu.gov/live/

The jump in umbers is largely related to the CDC getting more realistic in counting. Many of these children died from secondary infections and were not lab confirmed for H1N1.

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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
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thank you, my connection is to slow to view live internet.


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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
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niman wrote:
CDC is now raising the pediatric deaths to 540 as announced in the ongoing press conference

http://www.flu.gov/live/


Wow, waiting for a transcript for this one. Is that part of the revised 4000?

Just based on that number, and assuming pediatric deaths are occuring in the same proportion as during flu season (using the 36,000 deaths/year) then that yields roughly 40,000 flu deaths thus far. Yeah yeah, I know, meaningless statistics, just using their own bad math against them.

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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
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Press conference also indicated the project of 8 million doses of vaccine delivered this week by manufacturers will not be reached. Actual numbers will be "significantly" less.

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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
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wotan wrote:
niman wrote:
CDC is now raising the pediatric deaths to 540 as announced in the ongoing press conference

http://www.flu.gov/live/


Wow, waiting for a transcript for this one. Is that part of the revised 4000?

Just based on that number, and assuming pediatric deaths are occuring in the same proportion as during flu season (using the 36,000 deaths/year) then that yields roughly 40,000 flu deaths thus far. Yeah yeah, I know, meaningless statistics, just using their own bad math against them.

The archived video is available so you can listen from the start.

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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
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niman wrote:
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CDC is now raising the pediatric deaths to 540 as announced in the ongoing press conference

http://www.flu.gov/live/

The jump in umbers is largely related to the CDC getting more realistic in counting. Many of these children died from secondary infections and were not lab confirmed for H1N1.

Increases are based on adjustment for false negatives on testing, as well as ratio of deaths to hospitalized patients.

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 Post subject: Re: 540 Pediatric Deaths in US - CDC Press Conference
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They also indicated that there were 8 million pediatric infections and 3600 hospitalizations.

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